Article in Irish Times regarding CAX

Loganair in discussion to agree codeshare with Aer Lingus
Scottish regional carrier hopes agreement can be active from fourth quarter
Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 03:40
Peter Hamilton
Loganair will start flying from Carlisle Lake District Airport to Dublin from next month.

Loganair will start flying from Carlisle Lake District Airport to Dublin from next month.
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Scottish regional carrier Loganair is in discussions with Aer Lingus to come to an arrangement whereby both could publish and market each other’s flights.
The arrangement, known as a codeshare, is a common one in the aviation industry which means that customers of Loganair, for example, could effectively start their journey on a Loganair flight and continue onto Aer Lingus’s transatlantic network.
The move comes as the Scottish carrier gears up to launch flights from Carlisle Lake District Airport to Dublin from next month. It will also fly from the airport to Belfast and London Southend.
A spokesman told The Irish Times that the carrier hopes to have a codeshare agreement with Aer Lingus active by the fourth quarter of 2019.
Carlisle Airport is owned and operated by the Stobart Group, which until recently competed directly with Loganair through its regional airline business.
However, Stobart has effectively reduced its interest in the regional air business by selling a large portion of its stake to a consortium set up in 2018 to acquire British regional airline Flybe.
Stobart, along with Virgin Atlantic and Cyprus Capital Partners, founded the consortium. Stobart and Virgin control 30 per cent of the business while Cyprus holds 40 per cent.
Loganair has also been part of a recent wave of consolidation in the UK’s regional airline business. It stepped in to save a series of routes following the collapse of FlyBMI, including the Derry to Glasgow route.
Separately, the 57-year-old airline headquartered in Glasgow Airport is one of two carriers operating out of Donegal Airport, from where it also flies to Glasgow.
The reopening of Carlisle Airport, after more than 25 years without a scheduled commercial flight, will take place on July 4th and tickets for Loganair’s flights to Dublin start from
 
I wonder if anyone can remember an airline that operated Heathrow-Carlisle-Dundee. It would have been in the 80s, the carrier from memory was called Euroair and used a Viscount.
 
Heres a few memories I discovered of the route.

In the mid to late 80s I worked for Euroair Transport who operated the BAE (HS)748 service LHR-CAX-DND and return.
Although I was the Operations Superintendent for the airline, a few ground staff like me were checked out as cabin crew to give the airline flexibility.
The main thrust of the airline was ad-hoc pax and freight services on Viscounts, HS748, E110 and latterly Heralds. However a venture was made into the world of scheduled services.
The trouble with the airline is that it had no real direction, it was a case of ‘hey there is a quick buck lets go after it’ which seemed the ethos of most 3rd level carriers in the UK at the time. With work we could have become another Eastern Airlines or Business AIR, but the owners Alexandra Towing had no interest in expansion. So when Air Eccosse pulled of the route with the Shorts 360, Euroair found there was a lucrative subsidy to operate the service. Enter the HS748 Mk1A, recently obtained from Venture airways, this aircraft was originally fitted with a larger galley / ovens and fitted in 30 ‘C’ seats 2×1 configuration, Euroair refitted it with 44 2×2 seats. A second HS748 was acquired this time a series 2B. The master plan, now forgive me if I lose you here, was to operate 2 x return trips a MON-FRI DND-CAX-LHR-CAX-DND followed by a night mail freighter service.
Aircraft 1 would operate DND-CAX-DND x 2 during the day- on arrival at DND in the evening the aircraft would ferry to GLA to have the seats stripped out and trucked to EDI, the aircraft would continue GLA -LTN. – I hope you are all still with me.
Aircraft 2 would operate a night mail service LTN-EMA-EDI, ending up in EDI in the early hours, seats would be fitted and aircraft cleaned and positioned to DND at opening ready for the morning southbound service, meanwhile aircraft 1 had operated GLA southbound mail ending up in LTN to then repeat the northbound schedule the next night.
Now when it worked it was a dream but ohhh but when it went wrong it was an unmitigated disaster, leading to cancellations, seats in the wrong place, Heralds substituting for the HS748 and one day the truck company forgetting the aircraft carpets. We did get praise for the catering which was locally produced in DND and the service on board was aimed a little higher than standard Y. But as crew we were embarrassed with the aircraft at times, and the high utilization soon meant the aircraft were shabby. Sadly the Viscounts were sold to BAF, the scheduled service subsidy finished so the management decided no subsidy no service, very soon the business model changed to leasing the HS 748, E110 and Heralds rather than operating and Euroair was closed down to become BAC leasing. The staff dispersed and I joined a great carrier with Lions on the tail, sadly a few years later we closed and I came back into the safe world of ATC.
To me it was an opportunity lost, our loads were good, a lot of passengers were connecting to long haul and we were appreciated. Many customers from DND used the connection but very few boarded / deplaned at CAX preferring the BA 757 service to NCL. The only real regular we had was the local Carlisle MP who maintained that it was his god given right to sit in the last row as there was more legroom – not the case all seats were equally spaced. And if he did not get row 11 he was like a bear with a sore head.
A couple of light hearted anecdotes as I remember,.
Taxiing in at CAX was like going over a farm track, by far the roughest taxiway I have ever experienced and that includes West Africa, and a long taxi – much longer than our longest turnaround at CAX (scheduled for 5 minutes) with one engine running. Second the old dear who deplaned from the aircraft in DND – sweet old thing, she was regular as son paid for a monthly trip down south, one day her small carrier bag broke and out fell all the rotable dishes from the meal service. These were quite an expense for the airline, asked why did she have them the reply was I save all the dishes from my trip as they are great for my cactus collection, dumbfounded I let her continue with her ill-gotten gains.
So dear readers – my memories of the DND-CAX-LHR route in the 80’s – sorry if I have bored you witless.
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From Business Traveller Magazine.
 
I expected the flights would be reduced at the start of winter timetable, but middle of September is a little early. I hope this is to ensure the profitability of the route.
 
Flights Suspended From Carlisle Airport
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Loganair (LM/LOG) is suspending all flights from Carlisle Lake District Airport from the 27th March in response to the Coronavirus pandemic.
The airline, which is the airports only commercial operator, has already suspended its Dublin service but now London Southend and Belfast City will join the suspension leaving the airport without any commercial flights.
Simon Williamson, Managing Director of Carlisle Lake District Airport, said: “The unprecedented situation that we are all facing is having a major impact, with Government advising against all unnecessary travel. This decision reflects that important advice. Our priority must continue to be the health, safety and wellbeing of our employees, guests and the local community.
“Loganair has strongly advised that affected customers do not call their call centre as they are experiencing very high volumes of calls. Loganair has updated its website with all relevant information and those affected are advised to visit www.loganair.co.uk instead.

Loganair has said it will contact all affected passengers and fares will be refunded automatically.
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From: TheBusinessdesk.com - 19th April

Esken, the Carlisle-based aviation and energy infrastructure group which changed its name from Stobart Group earlier this year, has signed an agreement for the sale of its entire shareholdings in Stobart Air Unlimited Company and Stobart Air, to Ettyl Limited.

Stobart Air Unlimited operates regional flights under a franchise agreement for Aer Lingus and Stobart Air is the owner of Carlisle Lake District Airport.

The deal is expected to complete by early May.

Esken bought back Stobart Air and aircraft leasing company Propius in April 2020 from the administrator of Connect Airways, with the aim of seeking a new owner by February 28, 2021.

But the process was delayed due to Aer Lingus awarding preferred bidder status for an extension of the franchise to another party, and the impact of the extended coronavirus lockdowns halting most flight operations.

Ettyl is an Isle of Man-based company, registered in London and incorporated in May last year, backed by private investors.

It has agreed to pay £2 for Stobart Air, plus the value of any cash on the balance sheet on completion of the deal, together with a contingent sum of £7.5m, depending on certain trigger events at any point up to July 1, 2024.

Esken will make a payment on completion of the deal of up to £9.4m and will be responsible for the settlement of pre-completion liabilities totaling £25.8m, of which £19.1m are the subject of pre-existing parent company guarantees.

These sums represent unpaid creditors of £12.4m, which will be paid as they fall due in the months ahead and maintenance reserves of £13.4m, which will be paid towards maintenance obligations as they arise over the remaining term of the aircraft leases.

The deal also involves Esken taking full ownership of Propius for £1 and its lease obligations until April 2023. But Propius will be responsible for total lease payments of around £9m and will pay £15.5m in April 2023, which is the break fee under the existing leases.
 
Isn't Ettyl the IOM based 'virtual' airline that has/is offering flights to the IOM from a number of UK airports during the TT races? There has been much criticism of their boss (whos' name I can't recall) and who has been mentioned in despatches but not in a good way. He does frequent the other forum.
 
Isn't Ettyl the IOM based 'virtual' airline that has/is offering flights to the IOM from a number of UK airports during the TT races? There has been much criticism of their boss (whos' name I can't recall) and who has been mentioned in despatches but not in a good way. He does frequent the other forum.

Yes I think thats them, they've run a sort of charter season from various places. Liverpool was served with Sun Air for example. I don't know much about the organisation, imagine its a travel company 9f some type.
 
Please see posts #361 and #375 on the LBA forum (Air Lingus thread - Page 19) for more information on this. Stobart Air served LBA from Belfast City until today and there is much speculation as to who will fill the void.
 

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