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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Hardly, they are duty bound as journalists to report on all aspects of the story to ensure the public are as informed as they can be. It’s why you see the usual suspects commenting on all these stories, because it undermines the case for it to go ahead. As the proposal is to fund this with tax...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Well obviously it’s not CDC view which is why the YP are raising it. The question is a relevant one, why have CDC not requested a SYMCA wide funding model in the first instance despite saying things like shared risk shared reward? It’s a strange choice of language. Who’s sharing the risk? The...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    What’s this referring to?
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Fletcher is hardly the voice of reason either. Looks like this has come from a conservative councillor under whose ward the airport resides. She has a point though, why would CDC not even attempt to ask for a shared risk approach first, she even said herself recently ‘shared risk shared reward’...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    An article in the YP today appears to suggest that CDC have never requested that the other authorities that make up the SYMCA allocate any funding towards the DSA project to ‘split the risk’...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Perfect example of the ignorance the locals have. So some guy claims he now has to go to Heathrow cos he can’t fly from Doncaster any more. Where was he flying to from Doncaster that he now needs to go to Heathrow to get to? Stupid. The old chestnut of the operator putting charges up for...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Maybe so, but I just can’t understand why our political leaders refuse to tackle this issue head on. It just results in talking shops that go on for years with absolutely no resolution. This Parliamentary Debate is just another example, what exactly is there to debate? And what will the outcome...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    That’s another pit of meaningless twaddle. What the hell is a parliamentary debate if it doesn’t involve money? All these people saying it should relieve LHR should really be going out to the airlines of the world and promoting Doncaster as a viable alternative. If this got some backing I...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    People elsewhere have been using various AI platforms to inform their opinions. Whilst it isn’t scientific (AI works on the resources it is able to review) I got the following summary on Google Gemini;
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    VNE Aviation

    I wish him well, but it’s such an easy way to lose lots of money. LBA isn’t well suited to flying school activity any more, and Leeds East has a good setup in YAA and Aeros. Also Sherburn seems to be the place to be for the grass roots flying in that part of Yorkshire. Think Hields were...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    They are stuck aren’t they. The auditor talks of ‘escalation of commitment’ which is a concern that they’ll get too far in they can’t back out, but I think they’re in that position now! We had Damien Allen just a few months ago stating that those public sector gatekeepers should ignore the...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    What period do those minimum lease costs cover? 10 years? I’ve managed to read it all. She also states that the council have employed an entrepreneurial approach to the project. I could take an entrepreneurial approach if I had access to £100’s of millions of other people’s money. It still...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Wouldn’t be this would it? https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/doncaster-sheffield-airport-auditors-reveal-major-concern-about-ps105m-reopening-plans-4992338 Minimum lease costs increased 4 fold from £14million to £56million too? Interesting that the article states that it’s rare that an...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    As it’s from November 24 I suspect they’re doubling over to work to allay any concerns. It’s probably informed their most recent request for funds as that document was quite clear in the inherent risks involved and didn’t seem to play that down. That’s what most of the £20 million will be spent...
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    Jet2.com

    I was being sarcastic.
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    Jet2.com

    You’re talking far too much sense pilot_737 😉 I understand a fair few have been sent to the big posh building opposite the Premier Inn in Crawley recently too, the one with the big orange banner on the front of it! When you see the scale of other training centres you realise that an airline the...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Well summed up, but it does beg the question why they would be given another £20 million to continue work on it if there is a good chance the proposal doesn’t pass the scrutiny OC claims to be putting the plans through. If anything they’ve laid all their cards out on the table years ago, before...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    The original ACP to close the airspace has been at the decision phase since 2023, there has been no movement in the new one since August 24 when Cyrrus created it on behalf of CDC. I expect it’ll be up to the operator to do this work once the money has been forthcoming. Maybe part of this new...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Yes I’m not sure who has advised Ros Jones that Spring 2026 is a realistic timescale, I suspect there is some politicking going on with that. The language has changed on that too, judging by what was said at SYMCA board on Tuesday. If they can formalise the Gainshare ‘in summer’ and are well...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Not sure what deal TUI had with Peel but it was clearly a long term one benefitting both parties. I’m not totally convinced about TUI coming back in the same way for a couple of reasons. They first launched as part of their short lived Thomsonfly low cost arm. This was later absorbed into...
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