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Better tell LBA that then as I am repeating what was said at the last Consultative Committee. How on Earth can the airport itself be Green Belt? Makes no sense.
Is LBA or part of the site in a Green Belt Inset which removes it from the surrounding Green Belt constraints? That's how Bristol Airport is able to operate.
 

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Better tell LBA that then as I am repeating what was said at the last Consultative Committee. How on Earth can the airport itself be Green Belt? Makes no sense.
Assume that it wasn’t LBA’s planning advisor who was at the Consultative Committe.
Is LBA or part of the site in a Green Belt Inset which removes it from the surrounding Green Belt constraints? That's how Bristol Airport is able to operate.
The whole of the site is within the Green Belt, however, the Panel Report also refers to policies which refer to managing growth at the airport.
 

White Heather

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Not sure Local Yokel. The area to the East is green belt - open farmland. To the West is Yeadon itself, an urban suburb of Leeds but beyond that is green belt (Otley Chevin). To the North is the old Avro factory and beyond that, more green belt. To the South is Horsforth, another urban suburb of Leeds. So it's green belt to two sides directly adjacent to the airfield.and three sides within half a mile.

The new terminal is due to be built on land that is currently apron space and car parking, entirely within the airport boundaries. My understanding was it isn't green belt per se, but impacts on it as the terminal will be on a raised and prominent location, and screening with trees is not possible certainly in the short to medium term. It will therefore be visible from long distances across the Green belt land, which, to be fair, the existing terminal is also.

We were told therefore that as the building exceeds 1000m2 it has to have Ministerial approval, but that was not expected to be an issue as far as the green belt rules are concerned.

I fail to see how the airport land, which is already built on, and which is privately owned by the airport, can be green belt as suggested..if it were, it's unlikely they would have so easily got consent to build multiple car parks on it, adjacent to where the terminal is going.
 
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blotbuc1

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White Heather, probably not the place for a detailed discussion on the technicalities of green belt designation and policy, but on LCC’s development plan the whole of the airport is within the green belt and the Airport Operational Land Boundary is delineated. The plan contains policies for managing growth at the airport, and uses considered acceptable at the airport within the Airport Operational Land Boundary- including car parks and terminal buildings. Notwithstanding that, any development has to have regard to, and be consistent with national green belt policy, advice and regulations for development within the green belt, hence the involvement of the SoS.

If LBA are not happy with the green belt designation then it is up to them during the preparation, or a subsequent review, of the development plan to object and seek removal of the site from the green belt.

Land does not have to be ‘green’ to be included in the green belt. Many developed sites which are definitely not green, and often unsightly are within the green belt.
 

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Sounds ridiculous, and almost that the airport has deliberately been included in the green belt to add a secondary approval process for any major development, whether a terminal, hotel, or office block. But as I said, I repeated what we were told by the Director looking after the terminal development who worked very closely with the Senior Planning Officer throughout.

It's splitting hairs really as either way, it had to be submitted to the Minister on this occasion..
 

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WH, have you heard anything via the ACC? it all seems very quiet.
I wouldn't hear anything via the ACC except when there is a meeting. The last of those was a month or so ago, and I reported on it at the time. Other than that my only contact has been one to one with LBA development director. There isn't much that can be reported right now though.
 

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Not that it will matter to some members here due to there politic views.
But it's worth noting the Conservative candidate for West Yorkshire Mayor , Matt Robinson has publicly confirmed he supports LBA, not like the others whom have all said bigger all so far.

 

White Heather

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I think he's chosen his words very carefully there... He's not said he wants current proposals approved in full?
Yes he has openly supported the least contentious aspect of the approval. That doesn't mean he is opposed to the rest of it though. Or that he supports it. We will have to just guess on that one. It would be a surprise if he won though. Tracy Brabin seems the most likely. Although I believe she supports LBA, she appears to be saying nothing and trying to protect her votes.
 

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Yes he has openly supported the least contentious aspect of the approval. That doesn't mean he is opposed to the rest of it though. Or that he supports it. We will have to just guess on that one. It would be a surprise if he won though. Tracy Brabin seems the most likely. Although I believe she supports LBA, she appears to be saying nothing and trying to protect her votes.

Id rather her protect her voters and then p1ss them off, then outright lie about it, still get in, and then go back on her word. (Alex Sobel springs to mind)
 

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Not sure why we need a mayor anyway, more levels of bureaucracy and approval processes.
Because the Government will only let us control our own funds for major transport projects etc. if we have one. The area has resisted but if we don't have one, we will continue to be totally controlled by Westminster with no local devolution, and just fall further and further behind.
Just hope we get a half decent mayor who loves LBA! Not a Green or Lib Dem. or we will all be travelling on donkeys in 20 years.
 

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Thanks WH....let's hope someone with gravitas stands because I'm not impressed with any of the contenders so far. Irrespective of political party not 'wowed' by Tracey Brabin's speaking abilities in the Commons or elsewhere. An ex Corrie actor....and it shows.

The others are pretty weak too so if this new role is going to wield these budgets and transport decisions then goodness help us.
 

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Barry Whitepeas is ranting again. If you read the article can you give the supporters comments a 'like' or even better leave a support comment of your own. Thanks.
 
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