Edinburgh Airport - General Thread

[Jetsco]

Wow £3bn that's some price tag. Is that confirmed? I don't think London City reached that in the heart of the Canary Wharfe business district.

If EDI continues to recover strongly and attracts new carriers with long haul routes, the price tag I guess will be realistic. IMHO, EDI needs another year round route to the US or the return of EK. Stable and established routes give prospective buyers confidence to invest.

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S23 slots. It appears that slots have been applied for another transatlantic route in 2023. The big questions is who and where to and will it definitely happen? My first thought turns to JetBlue, possibly to Boston. LAX is currently offering big financial incentives to airlines to connect LAX with certain destination. Scotland is listed as being a target destination for the airport. This would be a fantastic boost for EDI if it were to happen. Who would take a punt? The incentive has certain conditions. Minimum 3 x weekly service, running year round for at least 2 years I believe. I don’t see American Airlines biting at this opportunity. If I were to guess, it would be United. Any other predictions???

The assumption is that it’s likely to be another American route. Transatlantic doesn’t necessarily mean the USA. Could it be another Canadian route? AC and WS enjoyed bumper S22 season. AC from Vancouver??

 

[Jetsco]

EDI - September 2022
Route Load Factors

Approx LF’s for the long haul routes.

Qatar

Doha - 97%

Air Canada

Toronto - 95%

West Jet

Toronto - 94%

Delta

Boston - 97%
JFK - 98%

United

Newark - 97%
Washington - 92%
Chicago (season ended early Sept) - 96%

Virgin

Orlando - 88%


Some very good stats again. Interesting to note that VS - Orlando route performed quite a bit better in September compared to August.

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Very upbeat message from EDI CEO. Made reference to new carriers coming in and a spectacular S22 international routes season. This is clearly backed-up by the very high LF’s. It’s pretty clear the airport is determined to expand the international offerings.

Video: Edinburgh Airport CEO Gordon Dewar

Learn the secret behind Edinburgh's strong recovery and recent new route additions

www.routesonline.com

 

[Jetsco]

US Pre-clearance.

Not for the first time, EDI rumoured to be on a list for US pre-clearance. This would require a major restructuring of a part of the terminal. Where would it be? EDI also have a limited year round portfolio of American routes. Only UA and DL operate year round.

Edinburgh Airport plans pre-clearance for US flights – Daily Business

 

[gulftraveller]

I would be surprised if EDI were to be the first UK airport to get preclearance. I would have thought MAN would be more likely given that they will have the space and that US passenger numbers to and from there are higher than EDI, even at their currently suppressed post covid levels. EDI attracts a large percentage of US originating passengers for whom preclearance is not really needed.

My guess is that preclearance will not happen at any UK airport in the near future.

 

[A400]

I would have thought MAN would be more likely given that they will have the space

I would have thought Heathrow would be first out of all UK airports if they did decide to have us pre clearance

 

[Jetsco]

I would have thought Heathrow would be first out of all UK airports if they did decide to have us pre clearance

Given how many TATL routes LHR have, it would require a very large area and almost certainly re-assigning/giving up a fair chunk of one of the terminals (Prob T3). T5 is almost entirely filled with BA int and domestic flights, so can’t
see them giving up part of the terminal.

 

[A400]

But would still make sense considering the amount of flights they have to the US.

Though I agree with what you say.

 

[Jetsco]

October 2022 Stats

Qatar carried 16,230 in October. Equals a LF of around 98%. Impressive stats once again.

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US & Canada October 2022

United

EWR - 97%
IAD - 98%

Delta

JFK - 99%

Air Canada

YYZ - 95%

 

[Jetsco]

November 2022

A few stats and load factors for selected routes.

Qatar (Doha) - 14362 or 95%
Turkish (Istanbul) - 9724 or 93%
UA (Newark) - 9461 or 94%
DL (JFK) - 7985 or 96%

 

[Aviador]

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[Jetsco]

December 2022

Some stats/load factors for the long haul routes.

Qatar (Doha) 14,951 or 98%
Turkish (Istanbul) 10,110 or 96%
Delta (JFK) 7,736 or 94%
United (Newark) 9,484 or 95%

 

[Jetsco]

January 2023

Some totals and approx load factors for long haul routes. Qatar and Turkish continue to perform extremely strongly. The American routes have performed steadily, given its January and off peak season.

United

EWR - 8050 or 83%

Delta

JFK - 5771 or 76%

Turkish

IST - 10,424 or 96%

Qatar

DOH - 14,918 or 98%

 

[Jetsco]

February 2023

Some totals and LF’s for certain long-haul routes.The capacity increase by Qatar appears to have been fully merited. Another very strong performance, particularly for a deep winter month.

Doha - QR - 18,692 or 94% Increased to 10 x weekly early Feb.
Istanbul - TK - 7,702 or 80%
Newark - UA - 7,102 or 78%
JFK - DL - 5,039 or 76%

 

[Jetsco]

US Pre-clearance

Looks like EDI is in line to deliver pre-clearance. This could be a massive boost for the airport and Scotland in general. The article mentioned the possibility of more routes to the US. I wonder where to? Sounds very promising.

https://archive.is/Cq4b3

 

[Aviador]

That's great news for Edinburgh. Do you think it will lead to more connecting flights through Edinburgh by passengers wanting to avoid the scrum in US immigration? If so what flights would likely benefit the most? I know Dublin has become quite popular with Yorkshire passengers choosing to avoid the larger airport options so hopefully Edinburgh may benefit in a similar way.

 

[Jetsco]

That's great news for Edinburgh. Do you think it will lead to more connecting flights through Edinburgh by passengers wanting to avoid the scrum in US immigration? If so what flights would likely benefit the most? I know Dublin has become quite popular with Yorkshire passengers choosing to avoid the larger airport options so hopefully Edinburgh may benefit in a similar way.

I would expect EDI to push hard and try to persuade DL and UA to go year round in some form with the ORD, IAD and ATL routes. I’m led to believe that the Atlanta route, re-starting soon is going to perform very strongly. With regards to new routes as a result of pre-clearance, I wouldn’t be surprised to see American - DFW being a strong possibility or the return of Philadelphia. JetBlue is another obvious and much rumoured target.

 

[Jetsco]

March 2023

Some stats and approx load factors for certain routes. 1,009,599 pax total in March.

Qatar - Doha 19,318 or 94%
TK - Istanbul 8,971 or 90%
UA - Newark 9,539 or 95%
DL - JFK 8,250 or 93%

Qatar still performing very strongly. The American routes doing well also following a quiet (ish) February. TK also up.

Some stats for other European routes.

Copenhagen - 14,474. Norwegian going double daily three time per week will boost this more.
Helsinki - 3,027. Finnair and route boosted by using A321 on certain rotations.
Paris CDG - AF and EZY - 32,476. Well up on last year.
Dublin - 58,535 up 33%
Cork - 14,246. Up 209%
Stockholm - 4,133 up 664% Scandinavian and Norwegian this summer should boost this further.
Amsterdam - 42,155 up 31% despite KLM cutting some night stoppers.
Oslo - 9,032 up 97%