I've never been convinced by anything that Wizz have come out with..They have never given the impression that they are anything other than an East European low cost operation looking for somewhere to happen...Leeds certainly swerved that bullet when they went to Doncaster..I would honestly be surprised if Doncaster have done anything wrong at all here..
 
Nobody knows the full story, the airport knew nothing about it by the sound of things, seems bizarre but with Peel at the helm things will continue to be a massive struggle at DSA the bigger fear is Wizz pull totally lets be honest Peel have no interest in the airport at all.
 
I wouldn't say that. Peel have invested heavily in DSA over the years. They have always said they are in it for the long haul and so far they are sticking by their word. The aviation industry is cut throat though and who knows what the future holds.
 
I wouldn't say that. Peel have invested heavily in DSA over the years. They have always said they are in it for the long haul and so far they are sticking by their word. The aviation industry is cut throat though and who knows what the future holds.
Yes, but they are primarily a property development company. Their main interest is in the development of the land that they acquired when they bought the former RAF site, rather than the operation of the airport.
 
Well at present according to sources the reason stated is because DSA is unable to guarantee the terms of the commercial agreement with Wizz.
 
Well at present according to sources the reason stated is because DSA is unable to guarantee the terms of the commercial agreement with Wizz.
My opinion would be that they have probably struggled to sell sufficient seats to justify a second aircraft, and that the airport probably offered lower charges based on a minimum number of passengers. If that isn’t met, airport demand higher fees. In this case, Wizz don’t want to/can’t justify the higher costs and have decided to drop the based aircraft entirely.
 
My opinion would be that they have probably struggled to sell sufficient seats to justify a second aircraft
that could be a reason why they’ve not based a second aircraft. I’ve also heard that they’ve struggled to recruit which is a reason they delayed the base of a second aircraft. Aswell as having staff shortages.
 
Yes, but they are primarily a property development company. Their main interest is in the development of the land that they acquired when they bought the former RAF site, rather than the operation of the airport.
They are also heavily into transport too, they own Liverpool docks and on the Wirral side of the river, and of course part owners of Liverpool Airport
 
Well at present according to sources the reason stated is because DSA is unable to guarantee the terms of the commercial agreement with Wizz.
A "commercial agreement" is a very vague term.

Usually but perhaps not always, airlines agree to bring increased passenger footfall to an airport in exchange for reduced fees such as for landing and overnight parking.

An airport then makes money through concessions, shops in the airport, security fast track and car parking etc.

Often part of any commercial agreement with the airport will include guarantees to provide a certain level of service known as the Service Level Agreement. This will include services provided to the airport by third party contractors such as Swissport or other airport handlers.

Now so far as I am aware Doncaster has not been experiencing any of the problems many of the other airports have been experiencing. So how the airport came to breaking the "commercial agreement" is a mistory. If that is indeed the reason for the airlines decision.
 
Ultimately it will always come down to demand.

What now?
There has been no shortage of people wanting to travel lately and the queues at other airports prove this. Wizz has advertised their new flights extensively throughout Yorkshire. They already have a good customer base here due to their long presence at Doncaster. I haven't heard anything great about their own service levels of late but I haven't personally used them.
 
There has been no shortage of people wanting to travel lately and the queues at other airports prove this. Wizz has advertised their new flights extensively throughout Yorkshire. They already have a good customer base here due to their long presence at Doncaster. I haven't heard anything great about their own service levels of late but I haven't personally used them.
I've not used them either, I heard of lots chopping and changing particular at Doncaster and Cardiff. We can add Tui and Easyjet to bad service now too.
 
I've not used them either, I heard of lots chopping and changing particular at Doncaster and Cardiff. We can add Tui and Easyjet to bad service now too.
A lot of the changes especially at Cardiff has been due to the pandemic, there has been some delays due to lack of crew but for the most part of what I've heard Wizz has has positive feedback at Cardiff.
 
that could be a reason why they’ve not based a second aircraft. I’ve also heard that they’ve struggled to recruit which is a reason they delayed the base of a second aircraft. Aswell as having staff shortages.
I have heard staff shortage has been an issue, however this surprises me, although I think this has been on the cards for a while. They didn’t bother running their most recent recruitment event at Doncaster but did so at their other based. It wasn’t too long ago that Wizz wanted to base 5 x aircraft at Doncaster, so something has gone drastically wrong. I suspect that if the passenger demand was there they wouldn’t be pulling out - as they would be meeting the SLA as Aviador pointed out.
 
I saw a LinkedIn post a couple of weeks ago from Chris Harcombe MD at DSA, saying he was to leave the business. A real homegrown talent, Chris had been involved in the airport pretty much since it opened, and worked his way up to the position of MD. For some reason I had forgotten about this, but I do think this is probably linked to the Wizz decision to leave. Changes clearly afoot, and I don’t believe the airport were unaware as the statement yesterday suggested.
 
This is a really bad situation for DSA but it could get worse what's to say Wizz don't pull what they've got left, not now but in the future a very good relationship between the airport and airline has certainly took a big hit.
 
This is a really bad situation for DSA but it could get worse what's to say Wizz don't pull what they've got left, not now but in the future a very good relationship between the airport and airline has certainly took a big hit.
Not sure how autonomous Wizzair UK is from its Hungarian owners, if at all. Seems there are now a planned 23 weekly departures this summer after the closure of the base in a few days. This compares poorly to pre-covid and pre-Wizzair U.K. leisure base. Not sure how TUI offering compares to pre-covid levels, but we all know the struggles they’re currently facing.

Perhaps the airport will go back to Ryanair cap in hand after apparently rebuffing them last year..? Though with recent movements in management at DSA I strongly suspect that the money pit is quickly drying up.
 
Not sure how autonomous Wizzair UK is from its Hungarian owners, if at all. Seems there are now a planned 23 weekly departures this summer after the closure of the base in a few days. This compares poorly to pre-covid and pre-Wizzair U.K. leisure base. Not sure how TUI offering compares to pre-covid levels, but we all know the struggles they’re currently facing.

Perhaps the airport will go back to Ryanair cap in hand after apparently rebuffing them last year..? Though with recent movements in management at DSA I strongly suspect that the money pit is quickly drying up.
The airport is in a real pickle now a really thinned down Wizz operation compared to pre-covid and the Wizz UK arm gone for good. I think TUI are about as they were before Covid struck think they were operating the four summer based A/C like now when Covid struck or the plan for 2020 would of been that can't remember for sure.
 
As for Ryanair not heard that one does it sit alongside the Amazon Air being close rumour?

We know Ryanair/Wizz at DSA together wouldn't/couldn't work so it's where next for the airport surely Ryanair would need to operate on some of the current Wizz routes.

What the DSA supporters would like to know is how Wizz were doing (the facts) and if they were making money and if those routes would work for another company the next problem is any airline will want two based A/C where are all those route's going to come from? but then where next for an already dosed down Eastern European network with Wizz in the present, do the airport write this sorry mess away and hope they can secure some of the lost pre-covid East European network that at one point stood at around 13-14 routes.
 

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