Route Development & Rumours

[David_itl]

delving back into history.... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/business-news/air-chinas-manchester-plan-1007134

 

[Scottie Dog]

Unfortunately, according to SPD_travels on X (formally Twitter) the airport has lost the proposed Air China freight service due to delays from the CAA in agreeing paperwork.

Why do airports have to bash their heads against these UK agencies?

 

[IanFarquharson]

Yes very frustrating Air China they wanted Stansted then Birmingham.
A delegation was shown around Birmingham Cargo Ops then they decided on Manchester as the current UK-China bi-lateral only currently allows for Manchester or London
Anyway not happenings

 

[Land23R]

However, there is another post on X from SPD Travels.;
"Corrected info
|Emirates Skycargo are aiming for a new 2 weekly flight into Manchester from May 2nd.Thu arrives 1515 departs 1720
Sat arrives 1120 departs 1350 B77F used
.It also appears Air China *may* be willing to wait for CAA so fingers crossed.

 

[robsh34]

According to Aero Routes Fly One will commence a weekly flight on a Monday evening to Chisinau from December 20th. At this stage it will be one flight a week.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Courtesy of SPD_travels on X

EasyJet add 4 new winter routes from Manchester.

Tromso, Zurich, Aeykureyi and Djerba. All operate 2 weekly bar Zürich which is 4 weekly

 

[David_itl]

Er... Airbus of all people have got MAN into a top 10 of non-intra African unserved routes! As usual, it's the outlier of all the non-African end of the route

They've done a study into African services and it's been the previously highlighted Lagos route. It has access to data that suggests over 4000 passengers a month is the average (roughly split 33% going MAN-LOS and 67% going LOS-MAN). Main airlines carrying the passengers are Ethiopian, Qatar, BA and Turkish (ET and QR both have 30%+ of the market)l, They tout 5 weekly A320/A321 or 3 weekly A330/A350

https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/file...rom_within_africa_by_geert_lemaire_-_2024.pdf

 

[BlueManc]

Got to say, our Friday morning arrivals board is really something to appreciate for a regional airport.

I remember when it was dominated by BA rockets and Heathrow tridents!

Just got to get those US carriers back and the usual suspects to commit (TG, AI and VS's and/or EI's expansion)

06:45 HU753 Beijing (PEK)
06:45 QR21 Doha (DOH)
06:50 BY189 Punta Cana (PUJ)
06:55 VS128 New York (JFK)
07:00 EI34 Orlando (MCO)
07:00 EI44 New York (JFK)
07:15 GF5 Bahrain (BAH)
07:15 VS110 Atlanta (ATL)
07:15 HO1661 Shanghai (PVG)
07:20 EY15 Abu Dhabi (AUH)
07:30 BY143 Cancun (CUN)
07:45 EK21 Dubai (DXB)
07:55 CX259 Hong Kong (HKG)
09:10 SQ52 Singapore (SIN)
11:10 VS74 Orlando (MCO)
11:40 TS206 Toronto (YYZ)

 

[IanFarquharson]

Got to say, our Friday morning arrivals board is really something to appreciate for a regional airport.

I remember when it was dominated by BA rockets and Heathrow tridents!

Just got to get those US carriers back and the usual suspects to commit (TG, AI and VS's and/or EI's expansion)

06:45 HU753 Beijing (PEK)
06:45 QR21 Doha (DOH)
06:50 BY189 Punta Cana (PUJ)
06:55 VS128 New York (JFK)
07:00 EI34 Orlando (MCO)
07:00 EI44 New York (JFK)
07:15 GF5 Bahrain (BAH)
07:15 VS110 Atlanta (ATL)
07:15 HO1661 Shanghai (PVG)
07:20 EY15 Abu Dhabi (AUH)
07:30 BY143 Cancun (CUN)
07:45 EK21 Dubai (DXB)
07:55 CX259 Hong Kong (HKG)
09:10 SQ52 Singapore (SIN)
11:10 VS74 Orlando (MCO)
11:40 TS206 Toronto (YYZ)

Yes very impressive and an arrivals board a lot of capital cities would be jealous of.

 

[Jerry]

FlyOne to bring forward the launch of its new Chișinău - Manchester route to 17 December 2024, and increasing the frequency from 1x to 2x weekly flights

5F598 KIV 1445-1620 MAN (Tue)
5F598 KIV 1715-1950 MAN (Sat)

5F599 MAN 1720-2230 KIV (Tue)
5F599 MAN 1950-0100+1 KIV (Sat)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830616463524385237

 

[Jerry]

Interesting bit of speculation.
American Airlines launching a route to Manchester?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831424159538409494

 

[Scottie Dog]

With thanks to SPD_travels on Instagram

Saudia looking to go 8 weekly to Jeddah from 8th October.

 

[Scottie Dog]

The following are all courtesy of SPD Travel

 

[EGCC_MAN]

Thanks for posting the above, Scottie. Instagram is a nightmare website. Won't work for me at all.

 

[Land23R]

Yes, thanks Scottie. Much appreciated for the same reason as EGCC_MAN.

Great to see that portfolio of airlines and routes going east. Given their loads, I hope GF will be going daily (if they have the a.c)). SV and CX at 6 x weekly - surely they could be daily. Disappointing if SQ stay at 5 x weekly with LGW going daily.

My impression is that Ethiopian, KU and RJ have not yet hit the loads that would justify extra frequency but I wonder what the yields are like.

Excellent that EY will be back to double daily.

 

[David_itl]

I'm not too fussed at what SQ is doing.

Going 5 weekly to daily at LGW means about 42% capacity increase.

Going 5 weekly split share with IAH here to a 5 weekly whole aircraft availability is going to be something like a 30% to 40% increase in capacity.

Ethiopian seemed to be ,more bothered about adding a new Northern UK destination than boost MAN to daily in the last blurb I saw about their UK operations (excluding London) - the only potential blot will be if any airline decides to operate MAN-LOS as that is where a large chunk of Ethiopian's MAN passengers connect to

 

[Land23R]

You're quite right David. 5 x weekly but a dedicated SIN flight does mean a significant increase in capacity for MAN-SIN compared to the IAH shared operation.

The wife and I flew with SQ back in 2005 when the flight was non-stop. I have a feeling the flights were daily at one stage and non-stop, but can't recall whether that was the case in 2005.

Initially, SQ flights had a transit stop when they started in 1986 - over the years I think that varied but included Bombay, Istanbul and at least one European airport.

Perhaps you have a better memory than me or records that show the history.

 

[LS@MAN]

You're quite right David. 5 x weekly but a dedicated SIN flight does mean a significant increase in capacity for MAN-SIN compared to the IAH shared operation.

The wife and I flew with SQ back in 2005 when the flight was non-stop. I have a feeling the flights were daily at one stage and non-stop, but can't recall whether that was the case in 2005.

Initially, SQ flights had a transit stop when they started in 1986 - over the years I think that varied but included Bombay, Istanbul and at least one European airport.

Perhaps you have a better memory than me or records that show the history.

Munich I remember being a stop over, around 2010ish (maybe)…

 

[Seasider]

We flew direct in October 2007, both ways.

 

[David_itl]

at the time of launching IAH, they were doing 5 weekly tag-on from MUC which is making me think it may not have been daily? I can remember the 3 weekly non-stop 772s