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A Look At Ryanair’s Crazy 200 Seat Boeing 737
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35% of Ryanair passengers were not sat together when not purchasing seats. Photo: Ryanair

We’ve seen some pretty interesting ideas here at Simple Flying. Some are pretty neat, others are pretty nice, but this one perhaps evokes a different emotion.


Ryanair is looking to outfit their Boeing 737-8 MAX with 200 seats. For comparison, Southwest’s 737 MAXs have 175 seats. Granted, Ryanair has ordered the 737-8-200, a specially designed high-capacity MAX aircraft for low-cost carriers.

In recent 737 MAX news, passengers and crew alike decried American’s intention to put 29 inches of pitch on their 737 MAXs. While American changed their mind, their 737 MAX is still not a well-liked plane.

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Ryanair’s latest proposal, however, takes the cake for the smallest economy seats. To fit 200 seats on their 737 MAX, the seats will be arranged with 28 inches of pitch.



Ryanair 737MAX interior with 200 seats
Currently, Ryanair’s smallest pitch is 30 inches on their 737-800 aircraft. Those planes have a maximum capacity of 189 seats.

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Given these parameters, Ryanair will most likely outfit these aircraft with 3 lavatories. That is almost 67 passengers per lavatory! Those lavatories will undoubtedly be small like American’s.

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Ryanair mostly flies short hops across Europe. This makes 28 inches a bit more bearable if it is on a 1-hour flight versus a 6 or 7-hour flight. Ryanair is also known for their cheap fares. Given fares as low as Ryanair’s, this seating arrangement makes sense from an efficiency and financial standpoint.

Ultimately, the biggest concern is whether other airlines with follow suit. With British Airways acting more and more like a low-cost carrier, most people probably would not be happy with a 28-inch pitch for a transatlantic flight.


What are your thoughts on Ryanair’s new plane? Would you like to fly on it? Let us know in the comments below!

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Ryanair issues profit warning, Michael O'Leary gets a new 5 year contract as group CEO and Ryanair adopts a more IAG like structure with 4 subsidiaries, Ryanair DAC, Ryanair UK, Ryanair Sun and Laudamotion.
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At first glance MOL is having his wings clipped (to maintain the aviation theme). Analysts don't think that's the case though.

I wonder how much real independence the CEOs of the four airlines within the group will enjoy. Currently many UK routes are operated jointly by UK-based aircraft and others based in Europe.

I also wonder who will take future decisions as to which UK routes will operate, begin, end, increase/decrease in frequency, and which airline will operate them.
 

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At first glance MOL is having his wings clipped (to maintain the aviation theme). Analysts don't think that's the case though.

I wonder how much real independence the CEOs of the four airlines within the group will enjoy. Currently many UK routes are operated jointly by UK-based aircraft and others based in Europe.

I also wonder who will take future decisions as to which UK routes will operate, begin, end, increase/decrease in frequency, and which airline will operate them.
I imagine it will operate in much a similar way as say BA/Iberia operate LHR - MAD, BA/Aer Lingus operate LHR - DUB/BHD and Aer Lingus/Iberia operate DUB - MAD.

I doubt each sub-group will take decisions that will affect other sub-groups without consulting them first.
 

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Ryanair are not happy with the Dutch government saying that their new aviation tax is just a subsidy for KLM. The new tax is €7 per departing passenger on direct flights but NOT connecting flights which is the bulk of KLMs business. Even though I'm a KLM customer I have to agree that's a bit unfair on airlines like Ryanair.
 

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Saw two stories recently regarding Ryanair services one from Dublin to Faro and one from Manchester to Spain, both badly behaved passengers ( The Manchester one, the fella said he would kill everyone onboard !) . What I don't really understand is why serve passengers who are already drunk and loud more drink on the aircraft.

From personal experience a Friday evening flight is the worse, this is the time for stags and hens. It's highly unpleasant for the rest of the fare paying passengers to endure badly behaved drunk passengers on otherwise normally on time flights with good crew. I also heard this week on the radio that the UK has the enviable reputation as the most drunk nation worldwide !
 

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Ryanair is setting up a new airline
Ryanair is set to launch a new airline in Malta, reveals The Irish Times. The carrier is believed to be in advanced talks with the government in Malta over the launch of an airline called Malta Air. The deal, expected to be announced soon, would see Malta Air initially operate with six aircraft before expanding to 12. Ryanair currently operates six aircraft in Malta under its own brand and was previously said to have shown interest in taking over the national flag carrier, Air Malta.
Now confirmed that Ryanair are starting up a new Maltese AOC based airline called Malta Air which will operate up to 10 Boeing 737-800s by next summer.

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And here's the airlines new livery.
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As nice as the new airline livery is, my only question here is what's the need for a new carrier, why not just base more Ryanair aircraft? :sneaky:
 

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As nice as the new airline livery is, my only question here is what's the need for a new carrier, why not just base more Ryanair aircraft? :sneaky:
The Maltese government seems involved...bet there is some advantage financially . The name is so similar to Air Malta too.
 

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As nice as the new airline livery is, my only question here is what's the need for a new carrier, why not just base more Ryanair aircraft? :sneaky:
The Maltese government need/want to protect and encourage the wider tourism industry and are being restricted in further assistance to Air Malta by EU subsidy rules and by taking a share of this new set up including a controlling golden share are able to further their objective and as pointed out on the Leeds forum by lbaspotter Ryanair can resolve tax issues re crewing and no doubt will have tweaked the already favorable terms they receive from the Maltese government.

By coincidence we are flying to Malta tomorrow join a cruise from there so I suppose that makes us part of the wider tourist industry as we spend time and money in Malta and obviously the cruise company provides some local employment and port fees as indeed do the airline we are on (Thomas Cook).
 

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looks quite plush ...

Ryanair establishes Malta Air
11 Jun 2019 by Alex McWhirter

Malta Air livery

Irish LCC Ryanair has reached an agreement with the Maltese authorities to launch a subsidiary airline called Malta Air.
The news was reported today by the Times of Malta, which says the new carrier will take over 62 routes from Ryanair.
Ryanair also released a statement confirming the news, in which it said it would begin moving aircraft at the end of June.
It will base a number of aircraft in Malta itself and provide maintenance facilities on the island.

Malta Air interior

The Maltese government will have a golden share in Malta Air.
It insists the new airline will not impact on flag carrier Air Malta as both airlines will be offering complementary services.
Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary reportedly said Malta Air hopes to carry five million passengers within five years and is already seeking new routes in addition to the 62 it will take over from Ryanair.
A start date for the new airline has yet to be announced, but Ryanair’s regular schedule will continue.
 

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As nice as the new airline livery is, my only question here is what's the need for a new carrier, why not just base more Ryanair aircraft? :sneaky:
Someone on another forum raised a very good point: why did they not call it MalteseAir? Now that would be a name that could pleasantly roll off the tongue...like a chocolate... :)

Not sure I like the livery though, it seems they have blended the airberlin colours and Lauda billboard titles, which is fine in itself, but unlike airberlin they have very little colour on the tail which makes it look unbalanced to me.
 

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