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oh350

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There are 2 aircraft over Warwick. The Aero Sotravia Beech B20l at 27k feet who do the broadcasting and an NPAS Vulcanair at 1.5k feet. My understanding is from reading about these NPAS aircraft is that they have nothing to do with the broadcasting and are operating in a capacity to what an NPAS helicopter would do but are able to stay over one area for longer hence I suspect why they are being used at events that last for several hours ie the road race today.
 

RichL

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So why is an apparently a police aircraft involved? I'm curious and happy to be corrected but cannot see the police being involved in public broadcasting there own information gathering yes either way we will probably never know.

The diagram shown is interesting but shows what is the standard way of the signals via a ground vehicle direct to a satellite. Helicopter to aircraft to satellite cannot possibly be the standard way of broadcasting given the amount of live broadcasting instantly available worldwide unless anyone knows different.

Like I say happy to be shown differently.
Hi there. Where are you getting the info that a police plane is involved? DarloPlaneBoy has indeed posted mentioning police, but his last sentence, along with mine, suggests broadcasts of the CWG.

The French Plane might be for French Canadian TV so you maybe onto something there
 

rollo

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Hello Richi, the only information/conjecture I have seen is on here and oh350 latest post seems to indicate that the two aircraft are operating on behalf of the NPAS because they have greater endurance the whole event lasts nine hours and he/she states not involved in the actual broadcasting.
To be honest I'm just being curious.
 

blotbuc1

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There are 2 aircraft over Warwick. The Aero Sotravia Beech B20l at 27k feet who do the broadcasting and an NPAS Vulcanair at 1.5k feet. My understanding is from reading about these NPAS aircraft is that they have nothing to do with the broadcasting and are operating in a capacity to what an NPAS helicopter would do but are able to stay over one area for longer hence I suspect why they are being used at events that last for several hours ie the road race today.
Correct that the 2 aircraft will be carrying out separate functions.
The NPAS Vulcanair as you say having a greater endurance than a helicopter.
The other aircraft will be involved in the broadcast of the cycling, relaying pictures from the helicopters and motorcycles following the race. When the Tour de France start was staged in Yorkshire and subsequently the Tour de Yorkshire was staged it was possible to follow the location of the peleton on FR24 by tracking the broadcast aircraft orbiting above.
 

DarloPlaneBoy

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Edit upon reading it seems the Plane was there. I also can't help but notice my area Darlaston has had no planes fly over for a week or so. Once they fly over us they turn twoards Town and my old address near to Wednesbury but on FR24 do Aldridge and then Sutton Park. Are they not flying over Darlaston because of the CWG and the Aircraft in that case could the Police Plane be doing both Ground Montioring and Guarding the Airspace if so I'd have thought the RAF would do that from Cosford or that say an FR 737 is allowed over the events to land at BHX unless it is on the French Broadcasting Companies request as they noticed an Easyjet A319 flying over Sutton Park caused interference or they could cause interference with the Aircraft Radio
 

pianokeys

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I believe after hearing an interchange by ATC at Birmingham this morning that there is restricted airspace in force for CWG. There may be even some sort of licence restriction to go through it on a need by need case. Happy to stand corrected though. Anything NOTAM’d ?
 

Kevin Farnell

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I believe after hearing an interchange by ATC at Birmingham this morning that there is restricted airspace in force for CWG. There may be even some sort of licence restriction to go through it on a need by need case. Happy to stand corrected though. Anything NOTAM’d ?
Yes, posted by Matt995 in the 'Birmingham - Notam's' thread -

current updated Notam, including runway closures, commonwealth games, diversions


C3794/22 Jul 8, 2022 12:24 LT
EGBB
RWY 15/33 CLOSED FOR ESSENTIAL WORKS. 14 0205-0430, 15 0130-0430, 18 0220-0430,
14 JUL 02:05 2022 UNTIL 18 JUL 04:30 2022. CREATED: 08 JUL 12:24 2022

J2083/22 Jul 7, 2022 10:14 LT
EGBB
RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY) FOR DRONE ONLY, COMMONWEALTH GAMES,
BRIEFING SHEET WHICH INCLUDES A CHART WILL REFER. RESTRICTION OF
FLYING REGULATIONS HAS BEEN MADE UNDER ARTICLE 239 OF THE AIR
NAVIGATION ORDER 2016.NO UNMANNED ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1500FT AMSL
WITHIN THE FOLLOWING
AREA: STRAIGHT LINE JOINING 524020N 0014350WPA - 522941N 0013144WB
THEN CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE 3NM RADIUS CENTRED ON
522654N 0012948WC TO 522452N 0012616WD THEN STRAIGHT LINE TO
522329N 0012446WE THEN CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE 13NM RADIUS
CENTRED ON 522722N 0014502WOJF TO 521730N 0013109WG-THEN CLOCKWISE BY
THE ARC OF A CIRCLE 3NM RADIUS CENTRED ON 521649N 0013555WH TO
521449N 0013932WI THEN CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE 13NM RADIUS
CENTRED ON 522722N 0014502WOJF TO 521431N 0014159WK THEN STRAIGHT LINES
TO 522208N 0015027WL - 522002N 0015606WM - 522846N 0020610WN THEN
CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE 13NM RADIUS CENTRED ON
522722N 0014502WOJF TO 524020N 0014350WPA.THESE REGULATIONS DO NOT APPLY
TO UAS FLYING IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PERMISSION ISSUED BY WEST
MIDLANDS POLICE WHO MAY BE CONTACTED VIA
CW(UNDERSCORE)AIRCELL(AT)WESTMIDLANDS.POLICE.UK OR VIA TELEPHONE
07795 697884.
DETAILS ALSO AVAILABLE AT AIRSPACESAFETY.COM. 2022-07-0452/AS6. SFC - 1500FT
AMSL, 22 JUL 06:00 2022 UNTIL 28 JUL 05:59 2022. CREATED: 07 JUL 10:14 2022

H4776/22 Jul 4, 2022 09:02 LT
EGBB
PARACHUTE DISPLAY WI 1.5NM RADIUS: 523448N 0020605WA
(WOLVERHAMPTON, WEST MIDLANDS). DROP HGT AND ACCESS TO CONTROLLED
AIRSPACE SUBJ ATC CLR. FOR INFO 129.900MHZ / 07714 753332.
2022-07-0113/AS3. SFC - 3900FT AMSL, 25 JUL 06:30 2022 UNTIL 25 JUL 08:30 2022.
CREATED: 04 JUL 09:02 2022

C3562/22 Jun 30, 2022 13:38 LT
EGBB
LOCAL AERODROME REGULATIONS - AMEND DIVERSION PROCEDURE IN
PARAGRAPH 1 AIRPORT REGULATIONS TO READ:
OPERATORS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR GROUND HANDLING
PRIOR TO ARRIVAL. UNLESS IN AN EMERGENCY, INBOUND DIVERSIONS WILL
ONLY BE ACCEPTED SUBJECT TO STAND AVAILABILITY. HOWEVER OPERATORS
SHOULD NOTE THAT OFF-LOADING AND AIRCRAFT TURN-AROUND MAY BE SUBJECT
TO SIGNIFICANT DELAYS.
UK AIP EGBB AD 2.20 REFERS. 01 JUL 00:00 2022 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 30 JUN 13:38
2022

C3545/22 Jun 30, 2022 00:25 LT
EGBB
TRIGGER NOTAM - PERM AIRAC AIP AMDT 08/22 WEF 11 AUG 22
RADIO NAVIGATION AND LANDING AIDS - REMOVAL OF VOR/DME DTY.
CHARTS RELATED TO AN AERODROME - REMOVAL OF NON-RADAR DEPARTURES TNT
4G, TNT 1K AND DTY 4F.
REMOVAL OF NON-RADAR DEPARTURES TNT 4G, TNT 1K AND DTY 4F. CHARTS
RENUMBERED.
AD 2.19, 2.24, AD 2 EGBB 6 REFERS. 11 AUG 00:00 2022 UNTIL 24 AUG 23:59 2022.
CREATED: 30 JUN 00:25 2022

C3523/22 Jun 29, 2022 12:24 LT
EGBB
D4 STOP BAR U/S. 29 JUN 12:21 2022 UNTIL 24 AUG 23:59 2022. CREATED: 29 JUN 12:24
2022

C3511/22 Jun 29, 2022 09:56 LT
EGBB
LIT MOBILE CRANE OPR 522526N 0014308WA (SOLIHULL, BIRMINGHAM, 147
DEG MAG 3869M FM ARP) MAX HGT 131FT AGL, 467FT AMSL. 11 JUL 07:00 2022 UNTIL
29 JUL 17:00 2022. CREATED: 29 JUN 09:56 2022

H3193/22 May 24, 2022 09:49 LT
EGBB
FIREWORK DISPLAY WI 0.5NM RADIUS: 523153N 0015419WA (PERRY BARR,
WEST MIDLANDS). FOR INFO 07969 123598. 2022-07-0067/AS5. SFC - 1200FT AMSL,
0745-2215, 24 JUL 07:45 2022 UNTIL 28 JUL 22:15 2022. CREATED: 24 MAY 09:49 2022

H3191/22 May 24, 2022 09:48 LT
EGBB
SEARCHLIGHT DISPLAY WI 1NM RADIUS 523153N 0015419WA (PERRY BARR,
WEST MIDLANDS). FOR INFO 07969 123598. 2022-07-0067/ AS2. SFC - UNL, 1345-2215,
06 AUG 13:45 2022 UNTIL 08 AUG 22:15 2022. CREATED: 24 MAY 09:48 2022

H3192/22 May 24, 2022 09:48 LT
EGBB
FIREWORK DISPLAY WI 0.5NM RADIUS 523153N 0015419WA (PERRY BARR,
WEST MIDLANDS). FOR INFO 07969 123598. 2022-07-0067/AS5. SFC - 1200FT AMSL,
1345-2215, 07 AUG 13:45 2022 UNTIL 08 AUG 22:15 2022. CREATED: 24 MAY 09:48 2022

H3190/22 May 24, 2022 09:47 LT
EGBB
SEARCHLIGHT DISPLAY WI 1NM RADIUS 523153N 0015419WA (PERRY BARR,
WEST MIDLANDS). FOR INFO 07969 123598. 2022-07-0067/ AS2. SFC - UNL, 1345-2215,
04 JUL 13:45 2022 UNTIL 28 JUL 22:15 2022. CREATED: 24 MAY 09:47 2022

C2310/22 May 5, 2022 06:33 LT
EGBB
METAL PLATE ON TWY ECHO BTN E5 AND E6. 05 MAY 06:25 2022 UNTIL 04 AUG 22:59 2022.
CREATED: 05 MAY 06:33 2022

C1078/22 Mar 2, 2022 15:57 LT
EGBB
CRANE. CONSTRUCTION SITE CRANE OPERATING AT PSN
522825N 0015357WA (ESSEX ST, BIRMINGHAM, WEST MIDLANDS). UP TO 406FT
AGL/806FT AMSL. FOR INFO CONTACT 07824 960299. ON EXPIRY OF THIS
NOTAM DETAILS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE UK AIP ENR 5.4 2022-04-0064/AS8. 28 APR
00:01 2022 UNTIL 26 JUL 23:59 2022. CREATED: 02 MAR 15:57 2022
Kevin
 

Scottie Dog

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Hi, I’m Adam. I have been following this forum for a few years and finally decided to make an account. There are so many BHX related topics that I would love to discuss with people on this forum and I can’t wait to have conversations with you all! (I hope I have posted this in the right place)
Welcome, as HPsauce has already said, and on behalf of the moderators we hope that you enjoy the various forums that F4A has to offer. We also look forward to your input as and when you wish to join in.

Scottie Dog
 

rollo

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Hi, I’m Adam. I have been following this forum for a few years and finally decided to make an account. There are so many BHX related topics that I would love to discuss with people on this forum and I can’t wait to have conversations with you all! (I hope I have posted this in the right place)
Hello admak1 get stuck in we like a good debate its all friendly, and informative.
 

davecleaver777

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Living 50m from the 0km start in Warwick for the commonwealth bike races was amazing on Sunday and me and the kids took full advantage. I didn't see any change to the arrivals pattern all day on 33. We had the helicopter at low level all day plus G-POLZ for the men's race, and a king air around 20000 circling all day. On a plus note it was nice seeing the locals look up and appreciate how busy BHX was with the arrivals on 33 all day. For me personally a great day and hope Easyjet finally fill that gap at BHX
 

Ray Finkle

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Hi, I’m Adam. I have been following this forum for a few years and finally decided to make an account. There are so many BHX related topics that I would love to discuss with people on this forum and I can’t wait to have conversations with you all! (I hope I have posted this in the right place)

Welcome Adam.

As others have already said, post away. We do our best to keep it friendly on here :)
 
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