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I've just seen a comment on the other forum saying that the reason why both BHX and BRS were pulled was because the yields were poor on AGP and PMI, Florence is unknown.
 

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I've just seen a comment on the other forum saying that the reason why both BHX and BRS were pulled was because the yields were poor on AGP and PMI, Florence is unknown.
Yes, I saw that. I note the poster who has been a member and regular poster on that forum for a long time includes BA in his user name.

Whether that indicates his working for the airline is unknown. If he is he wouldn't normally be discussing yields in a public forum, even in a generalised way.

He said that loads from BRS and BHX on the Malaga and Palma routes were up slightly over the previous year but the yields were very poor, hence they were pulled.

He went on to say that the Florence route from both airports operated with 'quite high load factors' but he doesn't know the yield. It begs the question that if he really does know the yields on the Malaga and Palma routes why doesn't he also know the yields on the Florence route?

The thought at the time the routes were announced was that because it was a way of utilising aircraft that were otherwise unused at weekends they weren't looking for great profits. Perhaps the yields were so bad that they were losing money. I never looked at the fares so have no idea of their level.
 

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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/british-airways-cancels-flights-bristol-2073985

There is a piece in the local rag today regarding the cancellation of the BACF programme at BRS.

A BA spokesman said that the airline is not resuming its flight programme at BRS and BHX next summer, "due to the complexity and cost of operating from airports where we have no crew bases".

He went on to say, "This doesn’t mean we are withdrawing from these airports permanently. We will continue to review alternative ways of operating from both Bristol and Birmingham airports in the future.”

Well, to plagiarise that comment from an infamous court trial in the 1960s, "He would say that"
 

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A BA spokesman said that the airline is not resuming its flight programme at BRS and BHX next summer, "due to the complexity and cost of operating from airports where we have no crew bases".
Yet BHX and BRS are probably the closest airports to their main bases with the exception of London airports. Also does MAN have a crew base? I am surprised that even with the competition they couldn't make the routes work.
 

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Yet BHX and BRS are probably the closest airports to their main bases with the exception of London airports. Also does MAN have a crew base? I am surprised that even with the competition they couldn't make the routes work.
I take it the statement about the complexity and cost of operating where there is no crew base refers in part to the problems they had with the BRS-FLR route this summer. There were times - I think it was on three occasions (certainly two as one of our members was affected) - when the BRS-FLR sector didn't operate. The reason seemingly being that the aircraft had been delayed so much on the first two sectors - LCY to FLR and FLR to BRS - because of overseas industrial action that by the time it was due to return to FLR from BRS the flight crew had run out of hours.

Passengers were then left stranded at BRS.

With Costa -type holidays reportedly down this summer because of the hot weather in the UK the Spanish routes chosen were already well covered at BRS (and at BHX) by other airlines. Although the Florence loads seemed very good - it was only an E170 though - the route operated on Saturday lunchtimes just over two hours after the daily and heavily used easyJet flight to nearby Pisa.

It was probably worth a try in order to find uses for the BACF aircraft at weekends, but these particuar routes didn't seem to cut the mustard although there have been reports - I don't know how valid - that BA wasn't looking for huge yields as it was more interested in utilising its aircraft to make some money rather than leaving them standing around doing nothing.
 

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I note that there is stlil a major advertising hoarding for BA and its summer routes on the triangular sail-type structure on the first roundabout along the main approach road to the airport.

Can't someone get their act together and have it removed? Incorrect information is usually worse than no information at all.
 

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I note that there is stlil a major advertising hoarding for BA and its summer routes on the triangular sail-type structure on the first roundabout along the main approach road to the airport.

Can't someone get their act together and have it removed? Incorrect information is usually worse than no information at all.
perhaps someone hopes that BA will change their mind about next summer routes.
 

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Someone hope that BA will change their mind about next summer routes.
They will probably still be hoping this time next year.
 

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