They don’t simply understand the economical arguments of aviation and then the tourist industry to countries. You cannot have a sensible, educated, articulated argument with them. That’s the issue. And sadly governments give them an ear. What we need is someone ruthlesss who will tell these people to, well you know, and then sort out the climate emergency after. After all the PPE is mostly plastic is it not? Kinda counter productive.'Various groups' mentioned in the previous post.