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Dobbo

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Beat me to the punch!

They have left space for a fourth pier, which is a change to my prior understanding. The cargo area looks constrained. The development also leaves options open for reusing the space around terminal 1 and 3 - which might be a dramatic change.
 

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The TP / Terminal 2 redevelopment application has just received unanimous planning consent in the hearing at Manchester Town Hall. Great news. Now for the construction phase.
 

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An interesting update from "Marni1971" of SSC (see airport thread) who attended a meeting and was talked through the current plans, which seem to be quite fluid.

Promising that a need is foreseen for 3 A380 contact stands...

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From last nights TAS meeting with speakers from MAG about the airport redevelopment. I may have some bits mixed up but this is what I gather.

Car park work late 2016 into 2017

Pier one (west) starts to open 2018. Other Terminal building work continues.

Main works due to complete 2022. Current T2 remodelling into 2024.

Currently three piers planned. Option for 4th (west most). Using these designations and looking at the existing airside frontage I'm describing them numbered 4 1 2 3 from west to east.

Pier 2 has 3 A380 stands. Two contact at the moment. Third contact possible. Possible 3 air bridges for these.

Two options for pier 3. One is double sided with current pier C removed. Other is pier 4 one sided and pier c satellite removed. Pier c (minus satellite - roughly the 1974 structure) will then go single sided and connect into end of the new pier 3.

Plans showed retained pier b and terminal one southside frontage. Pier b new build?

Also terminal 3 as is with possible southern end removed. Also easterly extension.

Main north - south Taxiway will be two way from runway one, between hangers and pier b, all the way to new T2 pier 1. No bottlenecks. Only single way running when A380 is on the move (not enough space for another plane to pass A380 around the hangers corner). Also new complete taxiway parallel to runway one north of it. New taxiway lighting guidance system.

Inside the new terminal 2 looks very impressive. New building joined to old for large continuous spaces. Design and layout still evolving but looked very nice. Plenty of space and light. Minimal signage with new signage system.

Then came the radical redesign of the interior space:

Current departures level will be opened up. Landside area will push further into current airside. Current check in area will be more empty. Plenty of self check in kiosks.

Big change to check in desks. Instead of a long line of desks the line will be removed. 4 "tear drop shape" or huge triangular islands will house check in desks. Two in current building two in new building. These will spread from current check in desk positions through into what is now airside. They will also function as bag drops.

Moving past these is the airside line and new security area, roughly where today's duty free shop area is. Huge area. This will use all the space up to today's departure pier and south windows out onto the apron.

There are two new separate security areas. One in current building one in new. Both on current departures level. Having two Offers flexibility, option to close one when it's quiet, and help spread the load between two when busy. Also plenty of spare room for future security measures.

Another revelation is the entire departure lounge will be above here on a new upper floor. Each security check will flow into two new vertical circulation areas with lifts, escalators and stairs up to this new floor. One circulation area per security hall. And each will put passengers at opposite ends of the new floor. New floor is huge, the length of both old and new buildings and width from the apron to today's upper balcony above check in. All eateries, shopping and lounge area will be on this floor....

....apart from extra eating and seating, and airline lounges, which will be on yet another mezzanine level above the new departure floor.

Both these new floors will have large apron view Windows. I may be wrong but there may also be yet another part floor with more club lounge space above this.

The new departure floor also means the new piers will be taller, with pier lounge space and gate access on the same level as the new departure floor. No moving down a floor to the piers. Not sure if actual access to airbridge will still need stairs down like today.

Arrivals hall and baggage reclaim bigger. Lighter. Taller. New baggage system.

Ratio of airbridge / contact gates to remote gates swings much more towards contact gates.

US pre clearance area safeguarded but not a definite yet in the short term.

Metrolink line to Davenport green and hospital (Whythenshawe loop) protected with possible new station for T2. This could happen sooner than later.

Internal road network redesigned and tested to circa 2034. Includes new direct link from M56 roundabout into the drop off area as seen in the flythrough video.

Current budget is £850m. The one billion figure comes from inflation adjusted final figures by 2025.

Funded by MAG. Was explained as any expected 10/20/30 million - or more - additions that would have to be made to existing terminals over the next decade are all having their budgets pooled into this one pot.


Like I said it's a bit vague and still a work somewhat in progress. I've also probably forgot some things and made the odd error but I think that's the main points. Exciting times.
 

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It's a bit basic but interesting to post none the less.

I do hope the piers are not as basic as this, as this design will not age well, and look outdated almost as soon as it's built. We know it's a basic render as there is just one jetbridge on the A380 (when I know for a fact there will be 3), but, can anyone guess what else is wrong with that jetbridge? It's quite subtle but it's an error.

It looks like the USPC pier is going to be one of the middle piers, as a document I have seen shows the customs point in the same area as the security hall so therefore needs direct, uninterrupted access to the gates.
 

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Just had a look at the flythrough again. The piers look pretty bland there, so the most recent renders should come as no surprise. Hope they are larger to fit in the capacity and facilities we hope and expect them to contain. Take a look at the link below.


In terms of the timing of USPC, it depends on the phasing.

If the expanded apron and stands next to the motorway (pier unbuilt on the above video) is constructed first, and the piers then follow sequentially thereafter, the phasing should fit with USPC in 2018/19.
 

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Just read today that package 1 of the MAN TP starts in January 2017.

Package one is:

-extension of the main terminal body and 2 piers
-2 multi storey car parks
-new baggage handling system
-reconfigure of access roads.

Now, the good bit.

We should be hearing about the aapproval of the USPC in the next 2 months, and this passage has been amended in the last week:

-Expanded security hall (which leads on to....)

-the provision of USPC facilities as a priority to be ready within the first stage of the TP.
 

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Im just going to post this.

There have been no pictures released to the public of what the baggage hall will look like in the new T2, so not been able to post them.

Now, I know the below picture is going the be STN's new baggage hall, but, having seen a picture of the MAN one, they are remarkably similar, so, worth posting here as a 'this is roughly what it will look like'.

MAN must be going for a synergy to make MAN/STN look and feel very similar, certainly a fair few similarities:

But anyway, will make MAN look very bright and airy, should be 15 carousels at MAN if I remember rightly, but could have misheard.
 

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Another update with regards to TP ground investigative work:

1.0 SUMMARY In preparation for the construction of new terminal extensions, ground investigation works have been in progress along the Terminal 2 Head of Stand road, the Gate 300/400 bussing yard, and at the far north-western end of the apron. Phase 3 of this work (buried services survey) is now to commence during February. The assistance of the airside community at Terminal Two is requested to temporarily move vehicles and equipment, and to take care when driving close to the works party.

2.0 PROGRAMME
Monday 13th February to Tuesday 28th February 2017. Daily working hours will be 0800-1800hrs local time Monday to Friday.

In chronological order, work takes place in 5 Zones

13th – 17th February - Zone D - Head of Stand road between Stands 205 and 218
20th February - Zone C – Equipment Bays Stand 219
21st February - Zone B - Taxiway Delta and Stand 219
22nd – 24th February – Zone A – Equipment bays Stand 249 and Airline Services de-icing compound Stand 251
27th – 28th February – Zone E – Gate 300/400 Bussing yard

More details on the MAG website
 

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More information from the MAG website with regards to airfield changes:

New Fencing around Fairey's apron.

With immediate effect work will commence to install fencing to the perimeter of the Western Maintenance Area (Fairey’s Apron) in preparation for reclassifying the area as airside

MAN-TP Cable installation.

1.0 SUMMARY
A four night programme of works to upgrade the existing cabling between R Sub Station and Stand 206, as part of the MANTP enabling works. This will involve accessing the existing pit and ducted system between the two locations to carry out rod and roping prior to the installation of new cabling.
2.0 PROGRAMME
2.1 A four night programme, consisting of three phases of work, (the fourth night being a contingency night) from Monday 13th March to Thursday 16th March 2017.
2.2 Nightly working hours will be 23:00 to 05:00hrs local unless otherwise agreed by the Airfield Duty Manager (ADM).
3.0 SCOPE & LOCATION OF WORKS
3.1 The works will originate at R Sub, cross taxiway November and the grassed areas beside Taxiway Papa, cross Taxiway Delta to Stand 205 and then terminate on Stand 206.
3.2 Overall the work comprises of the following:  The removal and replacement of existing cable chamber lids, entry, working within and exit of the chambers.  The proving of the connecting duct systems by the use of a rod system  The installation of draw ropes from pit to pit.  The Installation of additional ropes for future use
4.0 OPERATIONAL IMPLICATIONS
4.1 PHASE 1 (Monday 13th March)
4.1.1 Stand 66L and 66C to be closed during the working times. Stand 66R will remain available for aircraft parking.
4.1.2 Taxiway November will be closed at N1. N1 stop bar to be illuminated.
4.1.3 N1 will not be available as a Tug Release Point (TRP) for the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
4.1.4 Non-standard push back from Stands 66, 67 and 81 is to Abeam stand 82 facing the runways.
4.1.5 Stand 31 to be used for night stop only aircraft for the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
4.1.6 Taxiway PAPA to remain available as a Taxiway throughout the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
4.2 Phase 2 (Tuesday 14th March)
4.2.1 Stands 31, 32, 22, 202 and 204 arriving aircraft to be on stand before 23:00hrs. Any further movements on these stands to be under tow only, for the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
4.3 Phase 3 (Wednesday 15th March)
4.3.1 Stand 206 will be closed and unavailable for aircraft during the working times.
4.3.2 A section of Stand 205 equipment area will be barriered off and cleared of equipment. 4.3.3 Equipment at the head of stand 206 on the hatched area to be removed to provide access to the switch room.
4.3.4 Displaced equipment from Stands 205 and 206 can be temporarily relocated to the rear of Stand 206.
4.3.5 Taxiway Delta will be closed abeam Stand 205 and D7 Stop bar is to be illuminated. 4.3.6 D7 will not be available as a Tug Release Point (TRP) for the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
4.3.7 Taxiway PAPA to remain available as a Taxiway throughout the working times listed at paragraph 2.2
 

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Taken from the MAGWorld website - MAN-TP Phase 1 Site Establishment

1.0 SUMMARY To facilitate the start of Phase 1 of the MAN-TP development a site boundary will be established across the north-western edge of the Terminal Two and Western remote aprons. Stands and sections of taxiway will be withdrawn from use and there will be changes to pushback procedures and ground equipment parking provision.

2.0 PROGRAMME
2.1 Overall: Tuesday 18th to Friday 28th April. Working hours Monday to Friday 0800-1800 hours (local).  Close-off and fencing works will be carried out in two stages:  Taxiway Delta cul-de-sac: 18-21 April  Taxiway November cul-de-sac: 24-28 April.

3.0 SCOPE & LOCATION OF WORKS
3.1  Erection of a temporary works fence across the Taxiway Delta and November cul-de-sacs. (N.B. a new Critical Part boundary fence will then be established behind the temporary fence, the adoption of which will be advised in a future OAN or Supplement to the Aerodrome Manual).  Relocation of blast screens from the ends of the Delta and November cul-de-sacs to be integral with the temporary site fencing.  Removal and reconfiguration of relevant ground paint markings.  Isolation of taxiway centreline lighting on closed sections.

4.0 OPERATIONAL IMPLICATIONS
4.1 Taxiway Closures
4.1.1 Taxiway Delta will be closed H24 abeam Stand 219 / 249 Taxiway November will be closed H24 abeam Stand 74. OPERATIONAL ADVICE NOTICE OPERATIONAL ADVICE NOTICE (OAN) OAN 26/2017 PAGE 2 OF 3 4.2 Stand closures
4.2.1 Stands 74, 74R, 86L, 219 and 249 will be closed H24. (Note Stands 219 and 249 are permanently withdrawn from use).
4.3 Pushback procedures 4.3.1 Pushback procedures from Stands 74L, 86, 218 and 247 will change due to the proximity of the works fence. Revised pushback procedures (Revision T) will be published via the normal distribution. 4.4 Ground Service Equipment (GSE) parking
4.4.1 A number of existing GSE parking areas will be withdrawn from use in the vicinity of Stands 74, 219 and 249. Revised and additional GSE parking will be provided. Allocated users of specific areas will be advised of changes to their GSE parking areas individually.
4.5 Aircraft Washing Facility at Stand 86
4.5.1 Due to the loss of drainage run-off containment, Stand 86 will be withdrawn from use as an aircraft washing location. Alternative facilities are available at Stand 61.
4.6 Vehicle Refuelling Point
4.6.1. Access to the airside vehicle refuelling point will be maintained via a gap in the fence pending relocation of this facility to the vicinity of Stand 201 in due course.
4.7 Messrs. Airline Services Ltd.
4.7.1. Access to the Airlines Services Ltd. compound will be maintained via a gap in the fence pending relocation of this facility to Building 307 in due course.

5.0 LOW VISIBILITY OPERATIONS (LVO)
5.1 The development has no effect on existing Low Visibility Procedures.

6.0 FURTHER INFORMATION
6.1 Changes to the airfield layout are published via a Supplement to the UK Aeronautical Information Package (AIP).
 

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MAN-TP UPDATE

For those who don't frequent 'dried fruit' the following has been posted by a well accredited user in answer to a question regarding the closure of stand 211:

Stand 211 is unaffected until later in the programme. Stand 212 closes in May/June to become the site of a temporary gate lounge to replace the gates 213-215 which are demolished by the end of summer to make way for the terminal extension. Stands 213-216 are reconfigured in May/June to be served from the 212 gate lounge. Tenants in that part of T2 are relocated to new accommodation. Stakeholders have been consulted. Watch those Operational Advice Notices on magworld.co.uk. This is the start of redevelopment MAN has not witnessed in many years, if indeed ever.

Things are at last starting to move.
 

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Here is the plan (taken from the planning documents).

The area outlined in red is the extent of the consented scheme (terminal buding extension, new car parked and roads).

The hatched green area is the previously consented airfield extension over staff west.

The dotted lines showing the piers is airfield works that do not require planning permission and is outside of the red area for that reason. This also (I think) includes the new baggage handling room to the right of the main building behing the piers.
 

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Ah yes, the design and access statement. Couple of observations from this.

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It's a shame that on the forecourt side the old entrance is not planned to be updated with the new one. I think that would be far tidier.

The volume of the new part of the building looks far greater than the existing one. Loads and loads of space.

Some interesting aircraft liveries here including what I think is a UA B744 and loads of BA widebody types.
 

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MANCHESTER AIRPORT TRANSFORMATION PROGRAMME - MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WORKS COMMENCING 2017

1 Introduction
1.1 Major work will take place between Spring 2017 and early 2024 to construct an extension to Terminal Two, with a large multistorey car park, piers, associated aprons and taxilanes. There will be major works ongoing in landside areas, with tower and mobile cranes operating. There will also be multiple phases of airside works, involving stand and taxiway closures, taxiway diversions, reconfigurations and re-designations. From Summer 2018 onwards additional aprons and taxi lanes will be introduced.
1.2 AIP Supplements will advise of works and operational impact phase by phase, and aerodrome charts and textual data progressively updated.

2 Programme – Phase 1 Landside Works
2.1 18 April to 31 October 2017; Hours of operation, H24.

3 Operational Implications (Phase 1 Landside Works)
3.1 Site boundary fence erected at the northwest end of Taxiways Delta and November;
3.2 Stands 74, 86L, 219, and 249 withdrawn from use;
3.3 Stand 245 reinstated.
 

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Saw the second image on SSC and have reposted from there (I think credit to EGCC on that forum).

Massive site for development - I'll be interested to see what comes next with T1/3...
 

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Just another to add (which I think @User001 posted elsewhere). Looks like a glass roof/atrium - which gives the space an airy feel which I like.
 

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For those not familiar with MAN, the whole area behind the pier and back to the current wall of the check in hall will be the extended terminal building. The pier will be knocked down and then extended past the right of this image

Gives an idea of the scale we are looking at.
 

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OAN 45/2017 - MAN-TP WEST PIER RECONFIGURATION (Phase 3)

The next phase of work will re-introduce Stands 213 and 214 in a new configuration as angled 'walk-out' stands. It will then close Stands 215 and 216 for similar re-configuration works. NB - This work runs concurrently with that on the former Stand 212(OAN 31/2017 refers).

See the link below for full details of dates (which is between Thursday 22nd June and Monday 26th June):

http://www.magworld.co.uk/magweb.nsf/alldocs/3EB96B46976AE940802581460039DD0E/$File/OAN+45-2017+MAN-TP+PHASE+3+WEST+PIER+RECONFIGURATION.pdf
 
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