Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[Seasider]

Why do people want to "sensationalise" things, they should fly from LBA, then they would know what buffeting was like.

 

[ZB.AP.LS]

LHR has been struggling with high hinds and long holds today seeing AC divert to MAN & BHX etc, if only DSA was open to solve the whole countries issues!!!

 

[White Heather]

With all the nonsense about how the weather at Leeds is SO bad I thought this story might cheer people up.

Terrified TUI passengers in 'floods of tears' after pilot aborts Manchester Airport landing during blizzard

www.msn.com

These articles are all the same. The publishers must have a basic article that every story is adapted to fit. Love the fact TUi didn't tell the passengers they were diverting until they were on the ground at East Midlands. Saves a lot of whining by passengers to the cabin crew!

 

[Aviador]

LBA and BHX into wind then today I guess if Heathrow has crosswinds?

 

[White Heather]

LBA and BHX into wind then today I guess if Heathrow has crosswinds?

Nope. Crosswind here. 25mph this afternoon. Wind direction varies across the country. Tonight the wind switches to a more Northerly so should be better .

 

[LBA4EVER]

Looks like from later this eve its back to a northerly wind and snow showers!

 

[Kevin Farnell]

TAF (Terminal Airfield Forecast) for LBA -

Issued 3h 8m ago - all times local

From Monday 18:00 till Tuesday 18:00:
Wind 210° 15kt, gusting 25kt. Visibility 10km or more. Clouds scattered 1200ft.
Becoming from Monday 18:00 till 20:00:
Wind 270° 15kt.
Temporarily from Monday 18:00 till Tuesday 2:00: Visibility 6000m. Rain. Clouds broken 1200ft.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Monday 18:00 till 19:00: Visibility 3000m. Heavy rain. Clouds broken 600ft.
Becoming from Monday 20:00 till 23:00:
Wind 360° 15kt.
With 40% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 0:00 till 4:00: Wind 010° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2500m. Rain snow. Clouds broken 400ft.
Becoming from Tuesday 6:00 till 9:00:
Wind 280° 15kt.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 9:00 till 12:00: Wind 290° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 1400ft.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 12:00 till 15:00: Wind 290° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 600ft, broken 2000ft cumulonimbus.
Becoming from Tuesday 15:00 till 18:00:
Wind 240° 5kt.
Temporarily from Tuesday 15:00 till 18:00: Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 600ft, broken 2000ft cumulonimbus.

Data from Windy.com

 

[LBA4EVER]

TAF (Terminal Airfield Forecast) for LBA -

Issued 3h 8m ago - all times local

From Monday 18:00 till Tuesday 18:00:
Wind 210° 15kt, gusting 25kt. Visibility 10km or more. Clouds scattered 1200ft.
Becoming from Monday 18:00 till 20:00:
Wind 270° 15kt.
Temporarily from Monday 18:00 till Tuesday 2:00: Visibility 6000m. Rain. Clouds broken 1200ft.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Monday 18:00 till 19:00: Visibility 3000m. Heavy rain. Clouds broken 600ft.
Becoming from Monday 20:00 till 23:00:
Wind 360° 15kt.
With 40% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 0:00 till 4:00: Wind 010° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2500m. Rain snow. Clouds broken 400ft.
Becoming from Tuesday 6:00 till 9:00:
Wind 280° 15kt.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 9:00 till 12:00: Wind 290° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 1400ft.
With 30% probability, temporarily from Tuesday 12:00 till 15:00: Wind 290° 18kt, gusting 28kt. Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 600ft, broken 2000ft cumulonimbus.
Becoming from Tuesday 15:00 till 18:00:
Wind 240° 5kt.
Temporarily from Tuesday 15:00 till 18:00: Visibility 2000m. Shower snow. Clouds broken 600ft, broken 2000ft cumulonimbus.

Data from Windy.com

Now your just showing off with that windy.com weather site haha good site indeed but still prefer my www.wunderground.com

 

[Aviador]

Nah I'm windy all the way haha 😄

 

[YorkshireLad]

The LBA website is showing a Jet2 charter to Krakow tomorrow as LS6513

 

[oldendays]

The LBA website is showing a Jet2 charter to Krakow tomorrow as LS6513

Yes, it comes back about 10pm tomorrow. My guess is it's a school charter, most likely going to Auchwitz.

 

[a300boy]

They have just been clearing the runway due to a snow fall but now accepting landing and take offs so all is well except my car is covered in snow on the drive.

 

[craigston_tom]

Looks like something has happened with the Antalya, now estimated to land back in LBA at 16:40, just shy of a 16 hour delay.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Looks like something has happened with the Antalya, now estimated to land back in LBA at 16:40, just shy of a 16 hour delay.

According to FR24, it diverted to Dalaman (DLM), after holding. METAR states recent thunderstorm activity at AYT. It has now positioned from DLM to AYT, landing at 23:42. So, only just over an hour late. Still a horrible delay for the passengers, as they will have vacated their hotel rooms. I wonder if that hour delay due to diversion was enough to take the crew out of hours?

 

[White Heather]

According to FR24, it diverted to Dalaman (DLM), after holding. METAR states recent thunderstorm activity at AYT. It has now positioned from DLM to AYT, landing at 23:42. So, only just over an hour late. Still a horrible delay for the passengers, as they will have vacated their hotel rooms. I wonder if that hour delay due to diversion was enough to take the crew out of hours?

Well they couldn't have come back to LBA anyway due to the overnight runway works closure so perhaps they just opted to stay over and fly back today - and as you say, on a 4 hour flight plus holding, divert, and repositioning the crew were probably going out of hours.

 

[jason1-11]

Well they couldn't have come back to LBA anyway due to the overnight runway works closure so perhaps they just opted to stay over and fly back today - and as you say, on a 4 hour flight plus holding, divert, and repositioning the crew were probably going out of hours.

The flight was scheduled to land at LBA at 01:05 so perhaps the runaway works have finished or are only conducted on certain days.

 

[CM.]

The flight was scheduled to land at LBA at 01:05 so perhaps the runaway works have finished or are only conducted on certain days.

There was works on the runway this morning.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

As long as the crew weren't out of hours, wouldn't it have made more sense to operate the flight to another UK airport? In that way, the aircraft would not be stranded for a day and it would be easy to despatch another crew to reposition the aircraft to LBA once the runway re-opened.

 

[White Heather]

As long as the crew weren't out of hours, wouldn't it have made more sense to operate the flight to another UK airport? In that way, the aircraft would not be stranded for a day and it would be easy to despatch another crew to reposition the aircraft to LBA once the runway re-opened.

Surely they would have been out of hours though. I've no idea how many hours they can do, but assuming they start an hour before departure and then fly 4 hours to Antalya, perhaps 30 minutes holding and 30 minutes diverting, that's 6 hours already, and presumably time on the ground counts too however long that was. Then there's the positioning back to Antalya, an hour to load up and another 4 hours back to the UK. A conservative estimate would therefore be as much as 12 hours at least..That's a long shift for a flight crew and if they had another divert in the UK that would add even more hours.

Anyone know the limit?

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Anyone know the limit?

So many differing factors affect it - main one is the time of the day they started before departure. It gets more restrictive as the day goes on, I'm not sure on the increments.

You add an extra flight into the mix (in this case Dalaman back to Antalya) and you are restricting them even more. The more flights = the more restrictive.