Unless they've specifically stated that they want to move, I personally can't see EasyJet moving to T2 anytime soon. I have no idea how one extra pier is going to fit 22 based aircraft on, especially with all the others from T1 and T3 moving over this winter. Plus if all 22 flights in the morning rush would use bus gates then that would probably be bedlam in the lower Pier 2 bus gate area if there's about 10 flights leaving between 6am-7am.

Now that Departures A and Security A in T1 are staying open, and the fact that parts of T1 can't be demolished, it would make more sense for me to keep EasyJet with Ryanair over in the new combined T1/T3. Plus Pier B is supposedly accessible from T3 so EasyJet could continue to use Pier B with access from T3 Departures, with aircraft later in the day being towed to Pier B as it is currently (I guess all the airlines moving from T3 to T2 may free up stands in T3 too unless Ryanair want to expand further).

I could be totally wrong on this, but just my theory on it.
 
Very interesting @MKY661 and thank you for your thoughts. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome is.
As far as I'm aware - from a reasonably knowledgeable person - easyJet will remain in T1 until the start of winter 2025.
By that time we should know the definitive plans for the longterm.
 
Pier 2 with all airbridges and Easyjet not using them seems a terrible waste!! Also hardly any remote stands left now, especially when dual taxiway ops begin! Makes you think T1 and T3 to be integrated into low cost terminal, with perhaps a few airlines who prefer non bridged stands!
 
Apologies if this has already been posted! From what I have heard the whole point of T2 being expanded (it was originally supposed to be 4 piers) was that VS were planning to set up a ‘hub and spoke’ operation here, moving most of their Heathrow operation up, plus acquiring Flybe to act as the connecting flights. Reason being that they were unable to do this at LHR (due mainly to BA’s influence there, so ensuring that attempts like LittleRed were doomed from the start) and had seen the success TCX were having with just a loose agreement with Flybe. Unfortunately, COVID and subsequent inflation put pay to that, and has forced Virgin to consolidate at LHR just to survive, hence MAN lost all but the basic Orlando/Barbados routes (not including the ATL/JFK inherited from DL). As construction had already started, MAG could hardly abandon, however as we see it has been massively scaled back and in all honesty looks like it’s being done on the cheap. With no prospect of VS (or any European airline) being in a financial position to attempt this again, plus the lack of a ready made feeder airline means this is likely how it will stay. T1 pier C will not now be demolished, but will probably have air bridges removed when merged with T3, and the whole thing dedicated to Ryanair, EasyJet and possibly Jet2 (they won’t want the average clientele for those airlines mingling with that of premium airlines in T2 lol), plus BA, who will remain in T3 as punishment for promising expansion in the 90s/2000s then withdrawing altogether to their LHR bubble at the first opportunity!!
 
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No-way Virgin was moving most of their LHR business to MAN as LHR is high value where MAN is a mix , same at LGW was mainly holiday with some business. Easyjet move to T2 back end of next year
and most of Jet2 is already there with the rest moving in autumn leaving Ryanair at T3
 
i was going to reply and say the same. the idea vs were going to shift the most of their lhr flights to man - or indeed anywhere out of lhr - is frankly garbage.

Vs already do have feed in to Lhr via BA’s domestic network. BA are obliged to do this for vs (I seem to remember this was part of the bmi aquisition).

ba are moving to t2 at man within the year btw.
 
With respect I disagree. Whilst a few routes would have stayed at LHR that they could run as business class only (eg JFK, Tokyo) they could have moved everything else to MAN and had their own hub-and-spoke with the takeover of Flybe. Yes, you can fly BA into LHR and transfer but that involves a lengthy trek between t5 and T3, which meant most would pay slightly extra and fly with BA. Anyways, we’ll never know now, can’t see the recession ending any time soon.
 
With respect I disagree. Whilst a few routes would have stayed at LHR that they could run as business class only (eg JFK, Tokyo) they could have moved everything else to MAN and had their own hub-and-spoke with the takeover of Flybe. Yes, you can fly BA into LHR and transfer but that involves a lengthy trek between t5 and T3, which meant most would pay slightly extra and fly with BA. Anyways, we’ll never know now, can’t see the recession ending any time soon.

yes, this is your opinion - and somewhat of an unsupported and unrealistic fantasy. you can't just move most of your long haul operation to MAN and expect your passengers will follow considering most of them are in the south east. if you think connecting at LHR is bad, i can assure you no one would be flying from any airports down south in order to connect at MAN. they would just use BA or any of the other major airlines at LHR to go to their destinations.

it wasn't vs's plan as you suggest, if someone told you this they were having you on.

(edit: sorry to be blunt, but this is a reflection of how ridiculous this suggestion is)
 
Easyjet at T2 Pier 2 is ludicrous! Would be no stands left! Keep low cost airliners together! Manchester is a regional airport its never going to be major long haul hub. Expansion is limited to confines of Bollin Valley and motorway!
 
It’s not as daft as it seems. Unless u are flying BA then to transfer at LHR will involve a 2 hour transit between terminals (assuming the tube/busses aren’t on strike, and there aren’t climate activists glued to the roads, which LHR is a magnet for due to its location). I think they would have been targeting the significant number who choose to fly to CDG/FRA/AMS and connect to US flights due to those airports being far easier to transit through if your with different airlines. Like I say we’ll never know now, and Branson sure as hell won’t admit it now, as VS have had to consolidate on the premium/business market and cut costs, meaning a change of hub, and resultant 2 year loss just cannot happen in todays market. Agree to disagree👍
 
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Virgin has what 40? aircraft in it's fleet . There would have been no way that even 10 to 12 aircraft of their own aircraft would have been based, Then if you had original Flybe you may have had perhaps 6 to 10 based aircraft, With the propensity for long-haul being in the morning and slots at a bit more of a premium, I cannot see how a much expanded combined BE/VS operation could co-exist with all the other operators.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted! From what I have heard the whole point of T2 being expanded (it was originally supposed to be 4 piers) was that VS were planning to set up a ‘hub and spoke’ operation here, moving most of their Heathrow operation up
It was not.

Yes, Virgin hoped to get Flybe to bring more PAX to their Manchester routes, but not at the expense of Heathrow.

T2X was proposed purely to replace the life expired T1.
 
Easyjet at T2 Pier 2 is ludicrous! Would be no stands left! Keep low cost airliners together! Manchester is a regional airport its never going to be major long haul hub. Expansion is limited to confines of Bollin Valley and motorway!

Who said easyJet was going to be exclusively at pier 2?

There are legacy T2 stands, Zulu stands other side of pier 1 and remote stands on the apron capable of A320/A321 size aircraft for easyJet.

T3 is fine with one airline, that being Ryanair, which I imagine will grow their presence in the future once other airlines have moved over to T2.
No need to keep low cost carriers in one terminal!
 
Looking at the link that you have provided it appears that you have found the proposal that the airport has decided to abandon, as it meant the loss of too much apron space.
 
Who said easyJet was going to be exclusively at pier 2?

There are legacy T2 stands, Zulu stands other side of pier 1 and remote stands on the apron capable of A320/A321 size aircraft for easyJet.

T3 is fine with one airline, that being Ryanair, which I imagine will grow their presence in the future once other airlines have moved over to T2.
No need to keep low cost carriers in one terminal!
What a farce though if used remote stands. Most of these are currently in constant use. Especially those next to Pier 1, namely Jet2. The remaining 6 remote stands between pier 2 and C will be needed for heavies, as will loose all
the remote stands in front of cargo terminal due to dual taxiway. The legacy T2 stands are airbridged, no point wasting these! If T1 is abandoned. Surely can use Pier C and B stands and bus over to these? Will be a crap experience tbh. Already at least a mile of walking in T2 to get to gates!! Compared to LJLA, which is much more pleasant and smoother experience. The original T2 expansion of western pier plus a remote satalliate would have
been so much better! Could have done this, without as much disruption. T1 and T3 could then have been completely
rebuilt and realigned, removing Pier C bottleneck.
 
What a farce though if used remote stands. Most of these are currently in constant use. Especially those next to Pier 1, namely Jet2. The remaining 6 remote stands between pier 2 and C will be needed for heavies, as will loose all
the remote stands in front of cargo terminal due to dual taxiway. The legacy T2 stands are airbridged, no point wasting these! If T1 is abandoned. Surely can use Pier C and B stands and bus over to these? Will be a crap experience tbh. Already at least a mile of walking in T2 to get to gates!! Compared to LJLA, which is much more pleasant and smoother experience. The original T2 expansion of western pier plus a remote satalliate would have
been so much better! Could have done this, without as much disruption. T1 and T3 could then have been completely
rebuilt and realigned, removing Pier C bottleneck.

Maybe pier B & C stands will be used as remotes, but the stands on taxiway Zulu work for TUI & Jet2 and are not in constant use, there are times during the day when they (along with the legacy T2 stands) are available.
There will be new remote stands in the future replacing some of today’s pier B & C stands.

Yes there are long walks, like the same as other large international airports, ok they could have installed more travellator’s in the new piers definitely and I agree ref the demolition of T1 should have happened to make way for a new terminal.
But you are making the mistake of a direct comparison with Liverpool in your reference, it’s apples and oranges! I have used Gatwick and Stansted many times in the past, so therefore I can make an accurate comparison with them when thinking of my experiences through Manchester. For Liverpool I can’t make a comparison but my guess would be something like Leeds or Bristol airports?!
 

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