Southwind Airlines

[LBA4EVER]

And I understand they will be carrying extra underwing fuel tanks. At least that's what they are saying they are anyway!!!!
Sorry think we are all getting a bit too cynical here. Let's genuinely hope all does operate from July as planned now

Exactly as it will be something different to a now expanding variety of airlines/aircraft at LBA.

 

[lbaspotter]

As of march 28th, 2024 Southwind Airlines has officially been banned from operating into the EU and includes the UK. So it’s looking unlikely the Antalya - Leeds charter flights will be happening unless the tour operator Holiday Best gets a replacement.

Traficom will not allow Southwind Airlines flights to Finland | Traficom

The air carrier Southwind Airlines, operating from Türkiye, has requested permission from the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency (Traficom) to commence flight operations to Finland. Traficom has informed the airline that it cannot be allowed to operate flights to Finland.

www.traficom.fi

 

[Finger66]

No surprise really

 

[LBAYORKIE]

No surprise really

Looks like HolidayBest are now using a mix of SunExpress and Jet2.

 

[White Heather]

Looks like HolidayBest are now using a mix of SunExpress and Jet2.

Probably a sensible way while they become established.

 

[lbaspotter]

I understand Southwind Airlines are going to appeal the EU banning.

 

[Len Fish]

Good luck with that tovarishch.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Probably a sensible way while they become established.

Makes you wonder how Jet2 and SunExpress will accommodate the extra pax. Maybe we will see some extra frequencies.

 

[Seasider]

I don't think that the Southwind flight will cause a problem when there are 10? flights between Sun Express and Jet2.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I don't think that the Southwind flight will cause a problem when there are 10? flights between Sun Express and Jet2.

Depends. It was only 1 flight a week on a Wednesday but thats (potentially) 180 seats to be found on another carrier every Wednesday.

 

[White Heather]

Depends. It was only 1 flight a week on a Wednesday but thats (potentially) 180 seats to be found on another carrier every Wednesday.

More likely 189 seats each way if it was a 737 800, and more if they were using a MAX, unless Southwind had their aircraft configured to a lower than normal capacity..

 

[LBAYORKIE]

More likely 189 seats each way if it was a 737 800, and more if they were using a MAX, unless Southwind had their aircraft configured to a lower than normal capacity..

And we have to assume that if Jet2 and SunExpress have done their forward planning correctly they have planned for all their flights to be full anyway.

 

[Finger66]

I am sure neither airline will turn away any opportunity to top up loads in any which way. Disappointing to lose the extra variety of Southwind but happy it will support the other two. Just think of the further opportunities once the terminal is done

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I am sure neither airline will turn away any opportunity to top up loads in any which way. Disappointing to lose the extra variety of Southwind but happy it will support the other two. Just think of the further opportunities once the terminal is done

But surely Jet2 and SunExpress will have planned on having full loads based on their forecasts before HolidayBests predicament was known about. Why would they have spare capacity available for topping up?

 

[Finger66]

Because they will have had some available for sear only and that’s probably what they will happily release to Holiday Best for guaranteed sale/revenue. It may of course result in one or both of them increasing frequency to help compensate. The only loser here is Southwind

 

[Kevin Farnell]

It may of course result in one or both of them increasing frequency to help compensate. The only loser here is Southwind

That will depend on them having spare aircraft and crew available and if so, LBA being the best yielding choice. Southwind had planned to operate from more UK airports than just LBA.

 

[Len Fish]

More likely 189 seats each way if it was a 737 800, and more if they were using a MAX, unless Southwind had their aircraft configured to a lower than normal capacity..

Their 3x Max 8’s show a configuration of 189 seats. Could be worse, if they’d intended to use their 777-300 (in my dreams) they would have had 550 seats to find. Sounds a bit cramped to me!

 

[Finger66]

That will depend on them having spare aircraft and crew available and if so, LBA being the best yielding choice. Southwind had planned to operate from more UK airports than just LBA.

Of course that is all very relevant but we are discussing LBA specifically here. Jet2 do usually keep an aircraft spare at LBA so might do something. Of course it also depends on how the Turkish market holds up as a whole this year too. The one positive here though is that Holiday Best haven't pulled things altogether and have sourced alternative capacity

 

[LBA4EVER]

Their 3x Max 8’s show a configuration of 189 seats. Could be worse, if they’d intended to use their 777-300 (in my dreams) they would have had 550 seats to find. Sounds a bit cramped to me!

550 seater 777-300 arriving and departing LBA would be interesting to watch!!!

 

[oldendays]

Purely speculative of course but Southwind could temporarily transfer their aircraft and crews to the Sun Express AOC and operate them that way. Might not be legal or something SunEx or Pegasus or whoever would wish to consider. It's a thought though.