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On another point, is there going to be enough sales of this long range aircraft to make it viable for Boeing/Airbus.

I suspect that depends upon how they do it. If the aircraft used is a modified 777X/A350, then it shouldn't be a problem. For instance the A350ULR is just a longer range variant of the A350.
 

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What's happened to the tie-up with Emirates? I think they used to transit Singapore prior to Dubai.
 

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What's happened to the tie-up with Emirates? I think they used to transit Singapore prior to Dubai.
It's still there and being expanded according to the article.
I just wonder if there is too much capacity on the DXB route and maybe the Qatar dispute has spooked Qantas into going back to SIN
 

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Qantas will be taking over Emirates Tasman flights from Melbourne and Brisbane to Auckland. Qantas will add 2 weekly flights to it's BNE-AKL service and 7 weekly flights to its MEL-AKL service and many of these flights will be upgraded to A330s. This will leave Emirates with 1 daily A380 flight to Auckland and 1 daily A380 flight to Christchurch which will route via Sydney.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-and-emirates-partnership-update/
 

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Qantas will be taking over Emirates Tasman flights from Melbourne and Brisbane to Auckland. Qantas will add 2 weekly flights to it's BNE-AKL service and 7 weekly flights to its MEL-AKL service and many of these flights will be upgraded to A330s. This will leave Emirates with 1 daily A380 flight to Auckland and 1 daily A380 flight to Christchurch which will route via Sydney.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-and-emirates-partnership-update/
Thanks for that Jerry. It will be of interest to my wife and me if we continue to use Emirates to reach Melbourne in that the timings will probably be revised. Currently the aircraft we use reaches MEL circa 0630 local (it changes marginally from year to year) and then flies on to Auckland before returning to MEL mid evening before leaving MEL circa 2230 local to return to DXB. The aircraft will hardly likely to be kept on the ground for 16 hours at MEL if it no longer goes on to AKL.
 

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If the aircraft arrives about 6.30 then I'm guessing the departure time would change to 9.00 or 9.30? How long does it take to turnaround an A380?
 

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If the aircraft arrives about 6.30 then I'm guessing the departure time would change to 9.00 or 9.30? How long does it take to turnaround an A380?
Couple of hours or so I suppose.
 

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I believe that they have plans under their 'Project Sunrise' to fly SYD - LHR and MEL - LHR non-stop. These would be 20+ hour flights. I'm not sure I would like to do that, especially in Economy as I'm 6'3". Sometimes it's nice to have a 2 or 3 hour break half way.

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Funnily enough when Qantas announced direct flights from PER - LHR, many people said they wouldn't do it and would still stick to the stopover routes. Despite that, Qantas always maintained that the flights did very well, and given that they're pressing ahead with SYD - LHR (and others) I'd be inclined to believe them.

Having done the 16-17 hour flight from Dubai to Auckland a few times before, 3 times in economy and 1 in business, I get to the point where I feel "I've been in the air this long already, what's another 3 or 4 hours".

Despite the A350-1000 being a larger aircraft than the 787-9, Qantas will have over 20 less seats in economy on the A350, with 2 inches extra legroom in all economy seats.
 
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Having done the 16-17 hour flight from Dubai to Auckland a few times before, 3 times in economy and 1 in business, I get to the point where I feel "I've been in the air this long already, what's another 3 or 4 hours".
Personally I haven't flown for over 5 hours anywhere but I think I would probably feel the same by that point. Having flown for over 16 hours, what's another 4 hours or so. The only problem for me is if it is detrimental to the crew to be flying for any longer? I can only assume the removal of some seating is to provide better facilities for resting crew?
 

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Most modern long haul aircraft have dedicated crew rest areas. This usually comprises of a cabin behind the cockpit for the flight crew and will contain 1 or 2 bunks. For the cabin crew, there is usually rest area built into the roof section of the aircraft at the rear of the fuselage and can contain 8 berths or so.


Obviously, there need to be enough cabin crew for some to be resting while others are on duty. For the flight crew, it certainly used to be the case that the Captain that signed for the aircraft had to be on duty for take-off and landing, but could hand over to another pilot for the cruise period (not sure if that still applies).
I've done plenty of long haul flights, with the worst being Air New Zealand to Auckland. Being 6'3", economy class is not fun at the best of times, but to have one 12 hour flight followed by another just 2 hours later was not pleasant (that's nothing against ANZ's service, which was fine, just how cramped I found the seat). Business class is a whole different experience, with lie flat beds (on which I managed a solid 7 hours sleep).
So, I imagine the crew are able to get some decent sleep in their bunks.

Kevin
 

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