Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[Finger66]

Personally think they have/are run(ning) these 2 to 3 years too long. That said Jet2 will be far more aware of just how "sound" the 300s are overall

 

[White Heather]

Personally think they have/are run(ning) these 2 to 3 years too long. That said Jet2 will be far more aware of just how "sound" the 300s are overall

Obviously these aircraft still have many flying hours left. Some seem to be reliable, others not so. FO was troublesome as soon as it came back from it's C check. Silly me thought these checks were like a very major service so they should be better after than before. Seems not!
I guess that Jet2.may re-evaluate the future of these 300s if any one of them gets to the point where they are more trouble than their worth, as they did some years ago after G-CELI had several serious decompression issues and was unceremoniously scrapped at short notice. Problem of course is that they have planned to use them for summer 2025 and 2026 and if they find they need to replace one or more, replacements of that size to either buy or lease are few in number these days. They're likely to wring every last hour out of them unless something forces them to look for alternatives.

 

[pilot_737]

2027 cannot come soon enough.

2029!!

 

[lbaspotter]

2029!!

For for dear god tell me them Boeing 737-300’s haven’t been given another life extension?

I though the plan was 1x due to leave end of Summer 2026, 2x more go end of summer 2026 with final 4x see fleet retirement due end of summer 2027.

Saying that I’m all for keeping those who can’t be named neighbours up counting through the night for another 5 summers. Lol

 

[White Heather]

Saying that I’m all for keeping those who can’t be named neighbours up counting through the night for another 5 summers. Lol

Every cloud has a silver lining......

 

[BlueManc]

Not reported earlier but worth noting a possible 1st.

11:02 Cannes (CEQ) PC12 (T7-SLXP) Diverted to Manchester Barton
11:45 Nice (NCE) GL5T (CS-GLZ) Diverted to MAN

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The continuing unreliability of the 300s must be a concern for Jet2, both from a cost and reputational point of view. It doesn’t look good with the numerous technical problems and passengers being severely delayed as a result.

I wouldn't say they are unreliable. One problem highlighted on here doesn't mean they are an issue. Yes there is problem children within the fleet clearly but ... how many flights between it's last "pram out of the toys" moment and this one? Reliable enough.

There is probably problem children on the 737-800 fleet however they are not reported on the forums.

Obviously these aircraft still have many flying hours left. Some seem to be reliable, others not so. FO was troublesome as soon as it came back from it's C check. Silly me thought these checks were like a very major service so they should be better after than before. Seems not!

I would say the problem is that they find one problem, fix that, then it throws another completely unrelated problem up and again is "tech". As you also point out - there is problem children. And with a small fleet it's bound to feel like that they are repeat offenders. Similar to when the 757's where split and we had problem children - G-LSAG remember her constant landing gear issues?

Saying that I’m all for keeping those who can’t be named neighbours up counting through the night for another 5 summers. Lol

Anyone want to break it to them?

 

[BlueManc]

Bit blowy in the morning. Forecast 44mph at 0600 climbing to 51mph by 0900. Prevailing wind from the SW so right across Leed's runway. Calms down by 1200.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Bit blowy in the morning. Forecast 44mph at 0600 climbing to 51mph by 0900. Prevailing wind from the SW so right across Leed's runway. Calms down by 1200.

Usual story with the ATR72's

 

[mdobuk21]

The Belfast got in, the Dublin went straight to Liverpool

 

[LBAYORKIE]

The Belfast got in, the Dublin went straight to Liverpool

Another one has since diverted. They really arent suited to LBA.

 

[SierraHotel]

Loganair, take note!!!

 

[White Heather]

Another one has since diverted. They really arent suited to LBA.

Another in the hold now.

 

[GolfFox]

Another in the hold now.

Landed!

 

[BlueManc]

Netjets from Malaga CS-PHD Embrarer 300 NJE258E went straight to Manchester without any holding.

 

[White Heather]

Landed!

Yes, wind dropped considerably and I watched it going in whilst washing the muck off my car. Perhaps they knew the wind was due to drop so decided to delay lending in the interests of their nervy passengers.

 

[Aviador]

Another one has since diverted. They really arent suited to LBA.

I bet the stats show they're not as bad as the picture you paint of them.

 

[Len Fish]

Well LBA is not the only airport to suffer from strong winds so I suspect the ATRs suffer similar performance limitations at other airports in very poor weather.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Well LBA is not the only airport to suffer from strong winds so I suspect the ATRs suffer similar performance limitations at other airports in very poor weather.

I agree, but other airports dont suffer with high crosswinds as frequently as Leeds doez.

 

[White Heather]

I agree, but other airports dont suffer with high crosswinds as frequently as Leeds doez.

The reality is that most small regional aircraft struggle in high crosswinds, for obvious reasons, whether they are turbo prop or jet, ATR, Dash, or Embraer. The odds are any regional routes will be operated by aircraft types that don't like 40 knot crosswinds, whether at LBA, BHX or anywhere else. It's that type of aircraft or nothing so its pointless complaining about the ATR.because we are stuck with them and most alternatives are little or no better.