Leeds Bradford - General Thread

[airforced]

My Inbox has just received an email from LBA talking about exciting things happening at LBA. Note they are NOT talking about MASSIVE things happening. I wonder if the KLM 737 has been downgraded to exciting from massive? Answers on a postcard please.

From March 28th, 2020 we will welcome a larger Boeing 737 aircraft flying to Amsterdam. The increased capacity is a well-received development from KLM, our longest-standing partner, having operated from Leeds Bradford Airport for over 30 years. This will create an additional 7,000 seats during the 2020 summer season, allowing more passengers to explore Amsterdam; or enjoy one of the 161 further KLM destinations.

Thanks to Aer Lingus, we have welcomed extra flights to the culturally-renowned city of Dublin. The mid-afternoon flights operate three days a week, creating an additional 1,700 seats per month for business and leisure travelers. The additional flights offer far greater flexibility; reducing transfer times and improving the choice of transatlantic connecting flights.

Whilst we enjoy our traditional Sunday Lunch, Americans are preparing for Thanksgiving, one of the largest culinary holidays in the US. Aer Lingus can get you to America with ease with new flights to Dublin improving connections across the pond. Throw caution to the wind in 2020 and get your hands on a pumpkin pie, Yorkshire puddings will be there when you get back... we promise.

Our official partners have launched a new app, connecting you to your flight even quicker. To celebrate, use code ‘LBA3’ when booking and receive a £3 off all journeys to and from the airport*.



Enjoy up to 50%* off fragrance, alongside exclusive discounts you won’t find on the high street in the World Duty Free Sale. The annual event will be held this year at the Mercure hotel in Leeds.



Thanks to our wonderful travel agents, we have been nominated and shortlisted as Best UK Airport in the Travel Weekly Globe Awards - fingers crossed for the award ceremony.

 

[lbaspotter]

Okay lets just wait and see if the is still MASSIVE news to come, hopefully the is!

Also I think we would all agree we need to lay off @Bobby Ham as it could be classed as an act of bullying if its not nipped in the bud quickly.

 

[Gray Ham]

Apologies to Bobby Ham; guess I was thinking he knows more than he's letting on, but clearly this is not so. We’ll all have to wait and see!

 

[Bobby Ham]

Apologies to Bobby Ham; guess I was thinking he knows more than he's letting on, but clearly this is not so. We’ll all have to wait and see!

I know less than I'm letting on.

 

[a300boy]

Oh dear !
With the loss of Ryanair routes and the 757 fleet being removed to Manchester overall its a MASSIVE disappointment so far.
Only positive bit for me is more flights by the B738 might mean less diversions in bad weather as our lumpy short runway prevented the 757 from using its excellent autoland capability at Lba.
Whet will be will be and thanks for cheering us up for a few days Bobby Ham!

 

[Statto]

Oh dear !
With the loss of Ryanair routes and the 757 fleet being removed to Manchester overall its a MASSIVE disappointment so far.
Only positive bit for me is more flights by the B738 might mean less diversions in bad weather as our lumpy short runway prevented the 757 from using its excellent autoland capability at Lba.
Whet will be will be and thanks for cheering us up for a few days Bobby Ham!

Whilst not doubting that the 757 is definitely only CAT1 enabled at LBA, how much of an issue can it really be in practice. Jet2 introduced the 757 into service at LBA in 2005, so they've been happy to operate them out of the airport for nearly 15 years ! That would be an odd thing to do in business if it was costing you a huge amount in extra costs or customer dissatisfaction.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Some good news, have contacted the airport with regard the new terminal express car park charges.
If you have a blue badge you just need to take your blue badge to the information desk who will adjust charge to £3, it would have been impossible to get out in 10 minutes, you can also press the button at the barrier and show the card.
Airport responded immediately to e-mails on the subject.

 

[lbaspotter]

Hi all. Sorry for the delay in getting this sorted but good news to report!

The LBASpotters in association with Forums4Airports - Leeds/Bradford Airport Winter 2019/2020 Timetable is now finally on sale. Thanks to Paypal you can now purchase your own very copy for a small fee of £3.50 (Includes Free Postage) by using the following links to my Blog or Website shown below

Blog: https://lbaspotters.blogspot.com/
Wedsite: https://rossbailey001.wixsite.com/lbawinter19timetable


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This 1st edition booklet has 28 pages full of all the up to date scheduled and charter flights that will operate through Leeds/Bradford Airport during the winter 2019/2020 season.

 

[a300boy]

As a stat or business decision very little impact.
However if you are one of the passengers on the diverted flight it is Massive ( word of the week ) when it could be avoided.

 

[Finger66]

So the original post around massive news coming in the next couple of weeks was posted on 31Oct. Tomorrow is 11Nov so that points to it coming this week. I so hope this firstly is positive, but also involves the long awaited terminal extension and a minimum of one new airline coming to LBA. KLM 737s and an extra 3x Stobart AT72 flights a week are good, but hardly massive, so don't think it's that. We all know there are huge gaps in the LBA market and network so I hope management have convinced someone of that fact and we can perhaps Orange a welcome party! One of my deliberate typos there. The difficulty re business routes is that they need frequency. 1 a day is no good, so convincing someone of a min 2 a day is no easy task.

 

[LBA4EVER]

my guess is if anything is to be announced it will be tomorrow 11th or 12th as its start of a new working week perhaps?
reg business routes, KLM and aer lingus are biz routes so all good with the increases!

 

[jason1-11]

Not a single scheduled arrival tomorrow after 10:50 until 16:20

And I thought Wednesday was supposed to be the quiet day at LBA.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Not a single scheduled arrival tomorrow after 10:50 until 16:20

And I thought Wednesday was supposed to be the quiet day at LBA.

What gets me is when you look at the MAN arrivals there is no real change in arrival frequency between summer and winter,even in winter its like 1 or 2 arrivals every 5mins!

 

[Heathrowflyer]

I'm struggling to understand how LBA's projected pax figures by the Dft is 7 million by 2030 (a gain of 3 mill) given that we nudged 1.5 million over the last 10 years during the boom years of Monarch, BA etc. I think the Dft's model and estimation is inaccurate in the current climate.
And, if the Trans Pennine high speed rail route happens within that time frame it means we could be in Manchester from Leeds in 30 mins. I'm now thinking that we should think in terms of consolidation and protecting the 4 mill per annum and be happy with this.

 

[Rob c DSA]

Not a single scheduled arrival tomorrow after 10:50 until 16:20

And I thought Wednesday was supposed to be the quiet day at LBA.

Not good at all however not as bad as some other airports where it is almost half year closing

 

[Finger66]

And still a lot lot better than I remember from the early eighties. If we do get more business routes, whilst it may not plug that time gap, it will make things more year round. So here's hoping that comes about

 

[mdobuk21]

Only 8 scheduled flights all day at Donny

 

[Severn]

Only 8 scheduled flights all day at Donny

Not that it matters how many departures there are from Donny today in comparison to LBA....
It’s not all about number of movements...

All of the 8x flights from DSA today are with aircraft over 180 seats (average seats per aircraft 190), whereas LBA has 22 departures today on mostly smaller aircraft (average of 122 seats)

DSA - 1.2 million pax per year
1,500 departing seats today

LBA - 4 million pax per year (over three times the size of DSA)
2,700 departing seats today (less than twice the number of departing seats)

Make of that what you will, but DSA doesn’t look like it’s performing badly when looked at its size.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

I'm struggling to understand how LBA's projected pax figures by the Dft is 7 million by 2030 (a gain of 3 mill) given that we nudged 1.5 million over the last 10 years during the boom years of Monarch, BA etc. I think the Dft's model and estimation is inaccurate in the current climate.
And, if the Trans Pennine high speed rail route happens within that time frame it means we could be in Manchester from Leeds in 30 mins. I'm now thinking that we should think in terms of consolidation and protecting the 4 mill per annum and be happy with this.

Its not only Manchester to think about with high speed rail, the leaked HS2 report today highlights the benefit for Leeds with Birmingham in 45 minutes instead of 2 hours today, I would imagine east midlands even shorter.
Fortunately not sure the benefit for Jet2 to close LBA and share between Birmingham and Manchester, as air pollution will be an issue at every airport and a case of spreading the flights.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Not good at all however not as bad as some other airports where it is almost half year closing

interesting though how we don't get a single movement for 5 hrs but then the rest of the day we get an arrival approx every 15mins