CAA data for October is now available and my analysis for the years 2019-2024 is available at post #39 in https://forums4airports.com/threads/5728/page-2.

Individual airport reports will follow over the next few days.

Especially for my LBA friends - you have the first individual report for this month!

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Yes but Heathrow isn't a million miles away and its comparably easy to get to so Manchester shouldn't be a factor when comparing #BRS and #LBA.
BRS not only has the Bristol, Somerset and Gloucestershire market to itself but the whole of South Wales and all of Devon and Cornwall too (given what little the likes of Cardiff and Exeter offer). That is a huge area.
LBA not only has MAN to contend with, but the area BRS's catchment encompasses would include LPL, NCL, MME, EMA, BHX and HUY if applied to LBA.
Yes, the North has a much denser population but lots more airports, one of which acts like a giant greedy black hole. No doubt LBA should be handling far, far more, but it's way behind thanks to generations of luddite politicians and it'll take years to even start catching up the competition in any meaningful way, and like it or not, MAN will make it very hard to attract many of the airlines and routes that we would all like to see at LBA.
 
BRS not only has the Bristol, Somerset and Gloucestershire market to itself but the whole of South Wales and all of Devon and Cornwall too (given what little the likes of Cardiff and Exeter offer). That is a huge area.
LBA not only has MAN to contend with, but the area BRS's catchment encompasses would include LPL, NCL, MME, EMA, BHX and HUY if applied to LBA.
Yes, the North has a much denser population but lots more airports, one of which acts like a giant greedy black hole. No doubt LBA should be handling far, far more, but it's way behind thanks to generations of luddite politicians and it'll take years to even start catching up the competition in any meaningful way, and like it or not, MAN will make it very hard to attract many of the airlines and routes that we would all like to see at LBA.
So true. The population of the South West is more or less equal to the Yorkshire region, but I'm sure BRS sees Heathrow as a greedy black hole too and not to mention BHX which isn't all too far away as well.
 
So true. The population of the South West is more or less equal to the Yorkshire region, but I'm sure BRS sees Heathrow as a greedy black hole too and not to mention BHX which isn't all too far away as well.
Yes, but LHR isn't quite as greedy as you might think and has less impact on BRS than MAN does over LBA.

Most, if not all, regional airports of any size, are heavily dependent on the lower cost leisure airlines, notably Ryanair, Jet2 and Easyjet and in the case of BRS, TUi too. I have no doubt that the majority of passengers using BRS are flying on those carriers, none of which have a presence at LHR. So, in that market, upon which BRS is heavily dependent, LHR offers little to no competition.

By contrast, LBAs adjacent 'black hole', (MAN) has a huge presence by all of those airlines - airlines which are critical to LBA. So MAN has far greater influence over LBA than LHR does over BRS because a large proportion of MAN passengers are using the same airlines on the same routes and in the same market as the vast majority of LBA passengers are. It's direct competition, which isn't the case at BRS/LHR in that key market area.

For long haul, then yes, BRS loses passengers to LHR, but LBA loses ours to both MAN and LHR. In my mind, there's no doubting that BRS has far less competition than LBA has, and it gets even worse for LBA when you take into account LPL and the increasing growth there, which again is in the same market that LBA is dependent on. LPL has itself been constrained by MAN over the years, but is on the rise. Let's hope LBA follows suit.
 
Yes, but LHR isn't quite as greedy as you might think and has less impact on BRS than MAN does over LBA.

Most, if not all, regional airports of any size, are heavily dependent on the lower cost leisure airlines, notably Ryanair, Jet2 and Easyjet and in the case of BRS, TUi too. I have no doubt that the majority of passengers using BRS are flying on those carriers, none of which have a presence at LHR. So, in that market, upon which BRS is heavily dependent, LHR offers little to no competition.

By contrast, LBAs adjacent 'black hole', (MAN) has a huge presence by all of those airlines - airlines which are critical to LBA. So MAN has far greater influence over LBA than LHR does over BRS because a large proportion of MAN passengers are using the same airlines on the same routes and in the same market as the vast majority of LBA passengers are. It's direct competition, which isn't the case at BRS/LHR in that key market area.

For long haul, then yes, BRS loses passengers to LHR, but LBA loses ours to both MAN and LHR. In my mind, there's no doubting that BRS has far less competition than LBA has, and it gets even worse for LBA when you take into account LPL and the increasing growth there, which again is in the same market that LBA is dependent on. LPL has itself been constrained by MAN over the years, but is on the rise. Let's hope LBA follows suit.
I think MAN would not be as busy as it is, if it was not bleeding passengers from the east and west of it. This is changing however I believe.
 

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