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Thanks jfy1999. So they will be Dash-8s? Random question but are they less attractive to fly on from a business customer perception?

Does this mean we will loose all these routes?

Slightly contradicting yourself. Big cities come with large urban conurbations (such as the West Midlands) which in turn are the core airports catchment area. If services aren’t available locally of course people travel but that’s the airports responsibility to compete. BHX isn’t strategically...

Ray I completely agree. Do we think it’s management to blame or is it a lack of flexibility when negotiating deals with airlines that’s causing the problem? Or is it both? I found this interesting on LinkedIn. Route Developments response from Air Baltic to MANs announcement on the new...

Maybe they still might, give them time! I’m sure we will have some announcements soon

We are a global beta city

Maybe with retaining & growing LCC yes but BHX have a significant Long haul offer already & until recently, successfully operated transatlantic routes for a very long time. I wouldn’t say our position is similar to Bristol or Luton at all

New street station & Grand Central is a MASSIVE improvement on what was there before & considering the limitations of the project (the station operated throughout construction) it was a huge achievement & has contributed to the revitalisation of how Birmingham is perceived. Operationally there...

Hi David, I agree with everything you’ve said except we definitely shouldn’t ignore MAN. If anything we should learn how they’ve turned a regional airport into the UKs third busiest hub & how we can replicate some of their success. BHX just needs a more competitive marketing & business strategy...

I don’t think the terminal is a lost cause, if as a city we can transform new street from a 1960s carbuncle I’m sure we can do the same with a 1980s airport! Just needs a stronger vision

Well this thread is a hypothetical ‘dream thread’ so that’s sort of the point

Agree with most the comments above. From what I’m reading there seems to be deep rooted politics between shareholders & profits without a social or economic responsibility to the region. Does the airport have a governing charter similar to the BBC or is it a solely private entity? If not there...

Completely forgot to mention, we flew from Birmingham on Thursday to Rhodes with Jet2holidays. Check in was bliss (checked in online) & so was security. Still seemed busy for October so had a great buzz about the place. Only criticism if there is one is that the terminal is starting to look...

Hi Andrew, I’d have hoped other increases for S20 may have come from the likes of easy or maybe Whizz for Europe but also maybe a reconnection to Toronto with westjet or even the hotly anticipated route east would have been a welcomed boost! But at the moment it’s just looking like reductions &...

How much notice do airlines give BHX when removing/cancelling routes? Just seems so strange to see a sizeable reduction (as if there are other forces at play such as new entrants etc) Birmingham has a good catchment, the airport is a decent size. Why are we struggling so much to keep airlines...

Really not surprised but sad for BHX connections. I just hope we get a decent announcement soon re a new base!

Lobby piece of not, it sets out exactly virgins intentions with the Heathrow Flybe slots (which are solely for domestic or EU) to create a European network that will act as a feeder to it’s heathrow long haul network (which it also intends to expand IF the third runway is built). I don’t think...

I completely agree. That’s why I don’t feel it’s right to defend or worry about Flybe ops at BHX against new airlines entering like Easyjet. If easyjet want to come in, let them. At least there is far greater potential for growth from easyjet & in my opinion, I don’t think Flybe’s new management...

Even the map in that article (produced by Virgin) focuses solely on European routes to Heathrow. This whole Flybe acquisition seems solely about slots at Heathrow and competing against BA

This article in particular struck me as very much just Heathrow (Manchester mentioned once) https://simpleflying.com/virgin-atlantic-european-expansion/?_gl=1*16r5wn3*_ga*YW1wLWNhMGl5V2RqUlFPNGM4cW9YVnJnMlhqQnZ0aWN6Nk52R1VoZmJzbG1aQS1YcHlCTktOZWlpVzRCTVRQZ3pOQjc.