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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    It is my belief that the council know a CPO would be expensive. I also believe they know there’s a high likelihood of the failure reoccurring and so it’s perhaps not in their long term interests to own the land outright. There may be skepticism of Peel (some of which warranted, but not regarding...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    No company is investing in integrator facilities, that investment would fall to the land owner of lease holder. It won’t be European and I understand they have restarted flights to Teesside (could be wrong). Whoever they claim it is seems to already have a local operation. The claim that they...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Meanwhile Ros Jones has written (presumably by a ghost writer) ab open letter to Jason Charity. ‘All he needed to do was turn up to the meetings’ apparently. This pathetically misses the point, the meetings did not contain the details of the lease nor the terrible head of terms that she herself...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I’ve asked around and the consensus is that it’s not likely to be all that genuine. When someting seems too good to be true, and when it’s ‘leaked’ conveniently just days before a vote that we’re told could ‘kill’ the project, it’s a safe bet that they’re trying to paint the grass green. When...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Well… It’s time to call their bluff on this. Peel wanted a freight integrator investment for years but they couldn’t ever justify building one as they couldn’t secure a tenant. If this new team have somehow managed to secure a lasting tenant then Peel will want to know as they own the land. I...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    These vague press releases were as to be expected and as Speedbird predicted. We’ve also heard it all before haven’t we, certainly during the Peel days. The giveaway to this is that they claim this mystery interested operator are not in discussions with other airports (so why is it so sensitive...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Not much makes sense when it comes to untouchable political projects. Even when it’s blindingly obvious they cannot renege on the ‘will of the people’. The airport is a popular topic, the Cabal are trying to frame it as Reform killing the project, Reform are trying to sell it as saving the...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I thought it was 5? Dan Air Flybe Pan Am TWA Monarch Could be wrong. Christian Foster is on record mentioning easyjet numerous times. The last time he said it as if it was a foregone conclusion, adding that there’ll be flights to emerging markets like Chaiwan and Kajerbaijan - yes I made one...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I suppose under the current model, where in spite of a spurious ‘fact check’20% of the turnover goes to the land owner, they you’re probably right. Yes Donny people and particularly those in Sheffield can quite easily get to other airports and so the captive market, particularly for the price...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Agree completely, but it’s politics. Theres no way the loan would have been approved in November had politics got played the deciding factor in it. Guy Aston was instructed by Tice to whip all councillors into voting in favour, he was then met with a torrent of ‘abuse’ and stood down. They know...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    They’ll never directly admit it’s not viable, it’s not politically popular to do so. However what they are clearly saying is that if the private sector won’t invest then it’s not viable. I think Chadwick is seeing the writing on the wall too, as even if it did move on to a different operating...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    A question were all eagerly awaiting answers to. The conspiracy theory is Peel designed it to never be a success and/or priced airlines out so they could get the road links in place and close it to build houses or warehouses on it. Conveniently for people who subscribe to such belief (which...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I’m not sure, but I suspect there’ll be some contingency plan. Pulling the £57million would certainly provide at least a headache, I suspect their orders for equipment are contingent on securing this money along side their plans to ramp up recruitment to 200 people by the end of the year. As...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I wouldn’t be too sure. Jason Charity had Chadwick and the reopening project bang to rights, he has commented that he’s seen the business plan and stated that he could tell within a couple of pages that it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Quite clearly the problem is that the private sector aren’t...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I’d suggest let him believe that’s possible 😉 we don’t know how peel would react if there was a credible offer to purchase the site using CPO as the bargaining chip. We do know Peel are open to selling so long as it’s a price they feel respects the investment they already made into the site...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Let them, if they can find the private sector investor willing to take the risk then let them crack on. No issue with that, I doubt they’ll find anyone particularly in this period of uncertainty but you can’t say fairer than that if someone wants to take it on. It should not and must not be the...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I don’t know what’s worse, that or the post someone’s put up using Chat GPT to show the likelihood of each airline showing up. TUI - Very Likely Ryanair -very likely Jet2 - likely Chat GPT clearly didn’t get the memo
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I suspect given the cost of launching as @northsouth has alluded that they’ve probably had a bit of a training sortie mixed in, I understand it was tracking HUY inbound then broke off around market rasen. HUY SSR is poor at the moment as Claxby is currently US so that won’t have helped matters...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    2Excel inevitably dangling the carrot if jobs, jobs and more jobs. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/doncaster-sheffield-airport-aviation-firm-2excel-reveals-major-expansion-ambitions-for-site-after-jet-landing-milestone-7997778 They don’t need to go to the expense of reopening a full...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Here you are @GolfFox https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/doncaster-sheffield-airport-to-welcome-first-large-jet-since-2022-closure-7835760 I can assure this has nothing at all to do with ‘checking that the infrastructure is still capable of handling jet aircraft’. This is pure and...
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