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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    From the YEP: Doncaster Sheffield Airport: cost of taxpayer-funded reopening increases to £193m And we all know how public infrastructure projects go in this country. You can probably double that again.
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    Manchester Airport Transformation Programme

    Exactly right. What we do in this country is neglect everything until it needs replacing, and then expect plaudits for the ‘investment’. It’s hugely wasteful, and everything is filthy and broken as a result.
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Does Manchester pay airlines public money to fly from there? I’m not sure of the basis for the comparison, maybe someone could explain?
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I haven’t read it all yet, but I’d be surprised if they were able to give preferential treatment, because they are short of capacity to process airspace changes and therefore it would be at the expense of other applications. As for the job vacancies, again that’s very interesting. They are...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Very interesting. What immediately jumps out at me from the Assessment Meeting Presentation slides, prepared by CDC’s consultants, is this line: “Commercial imperative: Airline operators have confirmed that controlled airspace is a prerequisite for passenger operations and safe integration with...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Yes, it does: FINNINGLEY FACTS Application submitted in November 1999. - Outline planning permission granted by Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council in April 2001. - Runway, at just less than 3km, is the longest in Europe. Clueless nonsense that persists decades later. It wasn’t even the...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    It was very charitable of you to use the words ‘almost certainly’ and ‘might’ here, I must say.
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    This kind of invites the question - what was the basis for their original beliefs? An awful lot of people have been stirred up by the promises of easy wins and supposed mismanagement under Peel. Why did they think this wasn’t going to be difficult? What was the evidence? Because the only...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    I think that’s exactly what will happen - it’ll reopen for GA/freight/maintenance/manufacturing. Much less money required, much lower operating costs, and most importantly it lets them say they’ve kept the promise to reopen it, and (attempt to) keep the natives happy by saying they’ll look at...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    ‘There is no future for a regional airport in South Yorkshire with a business model solely concerned with commercial passenger flights’ I mean, I can’t disagree with a word of what he said, it’s nothing that hasn’t been batted around this thread for months on end. There may indeed be a future...
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    Leeds Bradford - General Thread

    A 737 is capable of departing from the intersection, as demonstrated in this case, and ATC have seen it many times before. Why on earth would they query it?
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    What? Don’t you know Doncaster’s nearly as big as Aylesbury? Of course it needs an international airport!
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    Leeds Bradford - General Thread

    Not ATC’s place to query. There are two pilots in the cockpit with access to all the data, it’s entirely on them.
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    Air Traffic, ILS & Navigation Aids

    Yes, 32 ILS u/s since this morning.
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Yes, setting up an ANSP from scratch is a long, expensive process, with lots of regulatory hurdles to be met. Seeing the control tower empty in the photos posted on FB, all the equipment needs procuring, installing, documenting and approving as well. As for doing radar remotely… who? Liverpool...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Honestly, that would be the most time consuming and expensive option, and the recruitment issues don’t go away because you’re doing it remotely - no ANSP has available controllers sitting around, ready to start up a new unit. The quickest, cheapest option would be to do what they did before...
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    Leeds Bradford Airport Parking

    Airports continue to have drop-off fees, and inflation is a thing. Hold the front page!!
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    Genuinely not sure. If it was purely down to ‘due diligence’ and the approval of auditors, then I’d be a fairly confident ‘no’. But we have no idea how much wiggle room OC has in that area, and more importantly whether he wants to use it. As I said the other day, everything he has said...
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    A new airport.... South Yorkshire Airport City?

    The replies are full of people saying ‘You know, I’m not 100% sure it will be open by spring 26’. REALLY!! What was it that made you finally realise that? They’ve been fed rubbish for so long, but some reality is beginning to seep in. I wouldn’t like to be one of those who led them on when the...
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