Leeds Bradford: General Airport Discussion & Updates

[White Heather]

Thanks for following up. Very interesting and if the council page is wrong then quite a major mess up for them to be publicly stating mistruths about the airport. Especially as it forms part of the planning consultation for the development of the city.

Well, whether the council is wrong, or the airport is wrong, I guess we will find out eventually. LBA have stated their view after talking to the council, and the guy from Planning previously confirmed there was no passenger limit. We were told any further planning application related to any further works required (that required approval) at the airport to enable growth beyond 5m. Nothing to do with further S106 liabilities. But who knows? It's hard to believe anything anyone says any more.

 

[The Pole]

Anyone see Blue Sky live today, the Ryanair max to Alicante took it from Delta

I don't get it/agree with it. You will still use the same amount of runway and get airborne earlier?
Plus passengers may get anxious when when they are still on runway over the tunnel!
How much fuel and time is a back track going to make?
Use the full runway? It's not like we have 10000 ft
If it went wrong you'd have extra concrete to stop or get airborne
Only takes a wrong digit in FMC and a distraction or a pilot that can't add up! And then what?

 

[GolfFox]

Common practice at Luton to go from A1 or B1 with out full back track. I believe the sign said 1771m TORA from A1 on 25 when I flew from there last year.

 

[pilot_737]

From what I understand FR have no take off selection for Delta, just like we don’t at LS.
What you can do with our tool is select a shortened runway, and manually enter the runway length. If it gives a solution, then its safe to do! (It’ll likely give a higher thrust selection than full length of course). I’m not sure if this is what they’ve done here, or inadvertently done it (were they a foreign based crew does anyone know?)

Jet2 don’t allow it, not sure on Ryanair. I’ll be surprised if ATC didn’t question it.

(Sorry @Aviador I missed the tag!)

To change the topic…
G-GDFG went down to BHX yesterday to cover a sick aircraft. Once it landed back at BHX at 22:08, it wasn’t allowed to position back to Leeds due noise!

CLEUD nonsense!

 

[radar]

Jet2 don’t allow it, not sure on Ryanair. I’ll be surprised if ATC didn’t question it.

Not ATC’s place to query. There are two pilots in the cockpit with access to all the data, it’s entirely on them.

 

[The Pole]

Jet2 don’t allow it, not sure on Ryanair. I’ll be surprised if ATC didn’t question

Jet2 sensible airline!

 

[BCFC]

Parking from 2nd Sept to the 11th……absolute insane prices. Its free at DSA!

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[LBAYORKIE]

Parking from 2nd Sept to the 11th……absolute insane prices. Its free at DSA!

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£170 seems good for a meet and greet. Was long stay even less? How do Sentinel compare?

 

[Scottie Dog]

This maybe a silly question, but how many days are those prices for? 7 days??

 

[dmrodgers]

Parking from 2nd Sept to the 11th……absolute insane prices. Its free at DSA!

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Bit of a long walk from DSA with luggage to catch a flight.

 

[Sputnik1]

The airport seem to be showing engineering firm Hoare Lea around the area where the pier is to be extended in the somewhat near future (stands 11-18)

 

[White Heather]

The airport seem to be showing engineering firm Hoare Lea around the area where the pier is to be extended in the somewhat near future (stands 11-18)

Any progress on the two new stands? I know there was drainage to sort out and, no doubt, electrical connections too, but I would have expected them to be getting close to pouring concrete by now.

 

[Sputnik1]

Any progress on the two new stands? I know there was drainage to sort out and, no doubt, electrical connections too, but I would have expected them to be getting close to pouring concrete by now.

Yeah there looks to be minimal earthworks left. Havent had a close-up look in a while but appears as though it'll soon be ready for a sub-base and pouring.

 

[White Heather]

Yeah there looks to be minimal earthworks left. Havent had a close-up look in a while but appears as though it'll soon be ready for a sub-base and pouring.

Thank you 🙂

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Any progress on the two new stands? I know there was drainage to sort out and, no doubt, electrical connections too, but I would have expected them to be getting close to pouring concrete by now.

I reported 3 weeks ago that the batching plant manager said they were about to start pouring. So if he was correct they should have already started.

Posted 11th July on Aprons, taxiways and runways thread.

'I was up at the construction site earlier today. I spoke to one of the workers who told me they hadnt started mixing concrete yet, but would be doing so in the next couple of days. Makes me think all the groundworks are finished'

He had just arrived at LBA earlier in the week. Apparently batch plant managers are only called in immediately before the plant goes into production.

He said they had a batch plant at Manchester airport which had been there 20 years. I assume 'ours' will also be around for several years.

 

[Finger66]

I reported 3 weeks ago that the batching plant manager said they were about to start pouring. So if he was correct they should have already started.

Concrete plans that were clearly not set in stone!

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Concrete plans that were clearly not set in stone!

But do we know they havent already started for sure?

 

[countdacash]

Not ATC’s place to query. There are two pilots in the cockpit with access to all the data, it’s entirely on them.

Not sure if that's official policy but questionable in my view given the potential consequences.

 

[EX9]

Not sure if that's official policy but questionable in my view given the potential consequences.

ATC do not have or involve themselves in the weight and performance calculations for each aircraft. It is the pilots responsibility to ensure they have done their calculations and it is not abnormal for an aircraft to use a reduced length take off roll.

If an aircraft asks for clarification on the take of run/distance available then ATC would clarify the figures but not question a request for an intersection departure.

 

[radar]

Not sure if that's official policy but questionable in my view given the potential consequences.

A 737 is capable of departing from the intersection, as demonstrated in this case, and ATC have seen it many times before. Why on earth would they query it?