I'm not saying there is not demand, for context this is about 270 passengers per day which is enough to fill a widebody but commercially you've got to consider that tickets to BKK from BHX are selling for more.
There is absolutely no reason why this route needs to be serviced out of MAN if it...
There are lots of options to BKK from BHX but not as many as at MAN.
MAN has quite a few extra carriers offering BKK in fact;
Cathay, Ethiopian, Etihad, Finnair, Gulfair, Hainan, SAS, Royal Jordanian, Kuwait Airways and SAS.
Admittedly it doesn't have Air India but it has significantly more...
To answer your question the BHX is full of posters talking about MAN routes, but no-one on the BHX forum is telling them they aren't welcome there.
I'm talking about the same routes as everyone else.
A quick like for like search on BKK from MAN in March shows 1 stop these flights are available cheaply already from MAN, it's at least £150 extra per person from BHX.
I don't deny the demand is there but MAN is very well served with 1 stop options, particularly with gulf carriers. Maybe Thai...
It's typical for travel agents, both those catering to business travel and leisure travel to negotiate a volume deal on a specific route. This is often one that airlines see as less likely to fill organically. It usually results in the agent earning a volume discount kickback on that route...
Thanks for responding and I get what you are saying, have you tried booking an exit row seat?
In respect of the specific example would you prefer a direct 12 hr flight to Singapore or Hong Kong or 2 7 hour flights with a short break in Dubai?
I'd also put in the mix Cathay and Singapore...
I also used to work in business travel and I used to travel business myself as a corporate with an number of guys in the same situation. I don't recognise this as typical behaviour.
In my experience most guys doing business travel want to spend the minimum time they can away from home for...
I'd like to pick you up on a large percentage of people wanting a stop on route, partcularly on a gulf route where there are also likely to be at least another 2 or 3 hours on the aircraft vs flying the most direct route. I'm not saying that people don't buy these itineraries but I am saying...
On the subject of gulf carriers I think certainly they must carry many passengers to the big 3 SEA cities of Bangkok, Singapore and HK. As others have mentioned many passengers must also use other European carriers like Turkish, AF/KLM. Don't underestimate how many seats LH group have as they...
You can fly Biman if you want to and I'm sure it would have appeal to those looking for the cheapest possible way to get to the served destination.
Are you seriously saying you think Biman's product is as good as Singapore Airlines?
Can I earn frequent flyer status and miles on any airline...
In case you missed it, these are the reasons SQ is not doing BHX-USA any time soon..
I addressed this earlier on, I'm not typing it again, you'll have to check it back and pick up on the specific points I made.
I've already debunked your claims about the relevancy of FRA being an A* hub...
HOU is the only destination SQ fly to the US, I wouldn't expect them to fly that, otherwise I don't see dilution as an issue, they can only increase their sales at the expense of the incumbent.
At Brum they would have their pick and could pick Newark or JKF, both of which sold before.
Biman...
This isn't quite what I meant. There are 7 daily flights to LHR with around 150 PAX per time (1,050 each way per day). A significant amount of this will be west bound transatlantic connections, which where MAN loses share to LHR on US routes. Eastbound routes are mostly served just as well by...
If you think SQ are too premium BHX imagine any existining airline could operate that route. Which is the most premium airline you think could operate it before they became too premium to make it work?
I'm happy to take Paul Kehoe on if you want as he is the guy who lost our only existing US...
We'll I've given a really detailed justificiation of why I think it would work.
You haven't really answered my question as to why Birmingham should be seen as less premium than Manchester. Maybe others think that because it is an opinion that is often furnished recklessly on forums.
As a...
Honestly yes.
Think of it more in terms of how much less demand do you see our of Birmingham than Manchester, given that they are not massively disparate in terms of population or economies.
Manchester already have SQ flights to Singapore and the US and presumably are selling enough seats to...
I gave a lot of consideration to whether the opportunity was unique based on the conditions I listed and the only other carrier I could see with a similar opportunity was Malaysia Airlines.
Malaysia has a similarly broad open skies agreement, which, like the one with Singapore, would allow the...
I think there is definitely unserved interest to the far east from BHX.
One of the articles I saw recently stated that Singapore Airlines wanted daily slots for their new route to Gatwick but were only allowed 5 weekly...
One route I'd like to see that is served by some of the budget airlines, but not Easyjet which is a bit conservative in my opinion, is Quenn Alia International Airport in Jordan.
Jordan is an interesting tourist destination in it's own right that is seeing tourism growing. In addition that the...
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