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    Loganair

    There are more than a few routes which are difficult, and CWL is not the only airport in this situation. DSA is another. You also need to look at the number of ex-Flybe routes still sitting vacant from SOU, EXT, NQY, BHX etc to see that airlines aren't exactly rushing to start new routes...
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    Loganair

    Just to add a further example. If average fares and passenger volumes moved in direct relationship, a 30% movement from 40,000 passengers at £60 average fare would translate to 28,000 passengers at £78. The revenue would move from £2.4m to £2.184m and that almost certainly would be...
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    Loganair

    To answer Jerry's question, I do have the Flybe yield and volume data by route. I'll need to leave you to your own conclusions on who I might be or how I might have that, I'm afraid. Cardiff Airport also has it for the routes that were covered by Project Red Kite, but I'd be very...
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    Eastern Airways

    That's for the winter season. They are holding slots at LHR for this summer, but those are presumably someone else's slots who simply isn't operating at this time and they won't earn grandfather rights to them - which is where the value comes
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    Loganair

    If I could give you £1 for every time I've heard that argument, you'd be far richer than me. Unfortunately, there are simply too few people to whom that philosophy applies. Try to squeeze up the yield to a sustainable level and you lose passenger volume very quickly indeed. The theory just...
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    Loganair

    FAO wasn't bad - both fares and volumes were OK. I'm not sure what you mean about non-based operators. They'll still have to earn enough income to pay aircrew and maintain their aircraft if they are based at CWL or elsewhere. There was a contractual commitment which required continuity of...
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    Loganair

    Project Blackbird wasn't properly costed so ended up losing money even then! You're right in that the aim was to put the aircraft into operations to cover their costs, but there were several issues including the maintenance costs being wildly adrift that resulted in the concept being far from...
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    Loganair

    The routes were covering the direct operating costs of each flight but there wasn't enough left over afterwards to fully cover the fixed costs of aircraft and crews. In this situation, you keep them going until something better comes along. The basket of routes on which each aircraft is...
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    Loganair

    The support level was 18% of the overall income at Cardiff. Even then, it was still loss-making against the full costs of the aircraft including all crew costs and a share of the standby aircraft and those needed to cover heavy maintenance. The routes need support - even Edinburgh...
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    Loganair

    I think you've hit the nail on the head - the only way it will happen is with subsidy. The Flybe subsidy income was a very significant part of the overall equation at CWL and was to remain so after the move to Q400s. The way in which it was done was state aid compliant despite complaints...
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    Loganair

    When Flybe moved from the 195 to the 175 on the CWL routes, the reduction of 30 seats per flight should have allowed the yields to strengthen. It didn't -- many of the route yields actually went down because of the continuing need to price-match or at least remain in the very same ballpark as...
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    Loganair

    I think the point being fundamentally missed here is that of yield. From my recollection of Flybe stats, the likes of EXT-EDI had a higher starting point than the equivalent routes from CWL. When I last saw any figures when Loganair was a Flybe franchise, the NWI-EDI yields were more than...
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    British Airways

    I'm not really sure you can compare the two. The local powers-that-be around Inverness absolutely threw money at getting the BA nightstop into INV. Unless there is a similar civic and local development will around LBA, it just couldn't compete. It wasn't really much of a decision for BA.
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    easyJet

    Air Baltic have pulled some existing routes including Aberdeen which was a low-frequency (2 x weekly) operation with the A220 to Riga. I don't think they're looking for new ones right now. Leeds-Riga probably has some VFR potential. Those with longer memories might remember the Baltic...
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    easyJet

    They're developing a fair presence at BHX without that needing to be a base. The future - at least in the short term - is likely to be fewer bases for easyJet with rumours of two UK bases under threat as it is. And although they will absolutely be talking to other airports, they did not...
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    easyJet

    Could be interesting - easyJet including a twice-daily BFS-LBA Airbus A320 service in their slot applications for this winter: EZY281 departs BFS 07:30 Mon-Sat EZY282 arrives BFS 10:20 Mon-Sat EZY283 departs BFS 18:30 Mon-Fri & Sun EZY284 arrives BFS 21:20 Mon-Fri & Sun Wonder if it might...
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    Leeds Bradford - General Thread

    With the way that connectivity at LBA is going, you do wonder whether getting hold of some very cheap-to-lease Q400s and type-rated crews, painting them silver and red and flying them as Dart2 to the likes of Belfast, Amsterdam, Paris, Dusseldorf, Jersey, Newquay, Knock, Hamburg, Berlin...
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    Ryanair

    The airport is perhaps taking a value judgement and has declined to offer Ryanair the terms that it was demanding from every airport to resume services. If the airport's capacity is limited by social distancing, it's logical to try to retain space for those airlines who account for your income...
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    Loganair

    Apparently the routes that were summer-only will be back for 2021 - the likes of Guernsey, Jersey and Newquay. The routes that were year-round but have been taken out won't be back - so by definition, that includes the two Cardiff services.
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    Flybe

    LBA-BHD was a very strong performer for Flybe. It's surprising that Eastern have decided to use the aircraft they have to go head-to-head with Loganair on NCL-SOU and ABZ-BHX yet leave LBA-BHD - an airport where they have an operating base - unserved. Looking rather like someone's been at...
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