Humberside Airport - General Thread
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I dont see that John , but I am getting fed up of having to look elsewhere for flights (not that it matters so much these days, now that I'm splitting my time between here and the big smoke!). Just a weekly flight to TFS, LCA and ALC would do at the moment.
I dont see that John , but I am getting fed up of having to look elsewhere for flights (not that it matters so much these days, now that I'm splitting my time between here and the big smoke!). Just a weekly flight to TFS, LCA and ALC would do at the moment.
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The current Hull and Humber Chamber of Commerce 'Business Intelligence' publication includes a few pages dedicated to transport in the region (a few pages in), and HUY is covered over four pages.
http://www.hull-humber-chamber.co.uk/me ... gence.aspx
Interestingly, it appears that holiday customers seem to have been put on the back-burner, with an upturn in that traffic not likely 'for a few years'. However, KLM are getting a very big push. It says 85% of passengers using the route are business pax. Lists the more frequent onward connections HUY pax make (including Oslo and Stavanger in Europe). Also very upbeat about offshore developments resulting in a significant growth in traffic at HUY in the future, and the 1.2million catchment area within 30 minutes of the airport.
All quite reassuring, however it seems they are not anticipating any growth in the bucket and spade market in the medium term.
The current Hull and Humber Chamber of Commerce 'Business Intelligence' publication includes a few pages dedicated to transport in the region (a few pages in), and HUY is covered over four pages.
http://www.hull-humber-chamber.co.uk/me ... gence.aspx
Interestingly, it appears that holiday customers seem to have been put on the back-burner, with an upturn in that traffic not likely 'for a few years'. However, KLM are getting a very big push. It says 85% of passengers using the route are business pax. Lists the more frequent onward connections HUY pax make (including Oslo and Stavanger in Europe). Also very upbeat about offshore developments resulting in a significant growth in traffic at HUY in the future, and the 1.2million catchment area within 30 minutes of the airport.
All quite reassuring, however it seems they are not anticipating any growth in the bucket and spade market in the medium term.
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Possible new scheduled flight from Humberside
It is not known how serious this concept is at the moment, but a company has created a website for a budding new airline, Europort Express.
http://exit3.co.uk/europort.html
http://www.routesonline.com/airlines/12 ... t-express/
It appears that the primary focus is to serve the shipping industry, with perhaps some links with the petro-chemical industry too. As with all new start-ups, a bucket of salt is needed.
Possible new scheduled flight from Humberside
It is not known how serious this concept is at the moment, but a company has created a website for a budding new airline, Europort Express.
http://exit3.co.uk/europort.html
http://www.routesonline.com/airlines/12 ... t-express/
It appears that the primary focus is to serve the shipping industry, with perhaps some links with the petro-chemical industry too. As with all new start-ups, a bucket of salt is needed.
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What's your feeling about jetXtra, pug?
Their comment about 'we are now working on future flights we can offer' (at HUY) seems a bit nebulous.
I take it to mean summer 2013 but they don't actually say that.
What's your feeling about jetXtra, pug?
Their comment about 'we are now working on future flights we can offer' (at HUY) seems a bit nebulous.
I take it to mean summer 2013 but they don't actually say that.
Jordan-34092
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You never know it could mean winter 2012, although it is unlikely.
TheLocalYokel said:
You never know it could mean winter 2012, although it is unlikely.
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It has been posted elsewhere that Manchester Council minutes from April suggest that a possible sale of HUY was going to a vote. I'm not sure of the outcome and have asked for a link to the minutes, but perhaps the Richard Lake rumour has some weight to it.
Would certainly explain why there is so little in the way of charter flights next year. So far only Bourgas on sale. Olympic have rolled out their program and HUY-HER is missing, it appears the Aegean flights on a tuesday are being transfered to BFS..
Can HUY even recover from this? I'm only hoping something is going on behind the scenes that would see Olympic taking seats on another, as yet unannounced airline, however how many times has that been said?
It has been posted elsewhere that Manchester Council minutes from April suggest that a possible sale of HUY was going to a vote. I'm not sure of the outcome and have asked for a link to the minutes, but perhaps the Richard Lake rumour has some weight to it.
Would certainly explain why there is so little in the way of charter flights next year. So far only Bourgas on sale. Olympic have rolled out their program and HUY-HER is missing, it appears the Aegean flights on a tuesday are being transfered to BFS..
Can HUY even recover from this? I'm only hoping something is going on behind the scenes that would see Olympic taking seats on another, as yet unannounced airline, however how many times has that been said?
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Further to my last post, someone on fruit suggests that 7 bmi regional aircraft will be free this winter and are yet to be redeployed. I've heard that MAN have made an agreement with them that will see an increase in routes and based aircraft, similar with EMA. I wonder if Paris and Brussels are being considered from HUY? Of course DSA may also be in the frame, but why would the business development manager at HUY post that up in an open environment if there was a risk of competition?
Hopefully something comes of this, any new routes such as these would require long term committment, not to mention codeshare agreements in place.
Further to my last post, someone on fruit suggests that 7 bmi regional aircraft will be free this winter and are yet to be redeployed. I've heard that MAN have made an agreement with them that will see an increase in routes and based aircraft, similar with EMA. I wonder if Paris and Brussels are being considered from HUY? Of course DSA may also be in the frame, but why would the business development manager at HUY post that up in an open environment if there was a risk of competition?
Hopefully something comes of this, any new routes such as these would require long term committment, not to mention codeshare agreements in place.
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If Thomas Cook has completely left Humberside, where does that leave Humberside so far as charter traffic goes? Is there going to be anything left?
If Thomas Cook has completely left Humberside, where does that leave Humberside so far as charter traffic goes? Is there going to be anything left?
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So far, 1xweekly Bulgaria flight. This down from 30 weekly flights just a few years ago. Problem clearly is that HUY never became a base (except that part based XL), and they had too much to lose, which they evidently now have done.
JetXtra are making some noise again, I suspect it will remain just that. There seems to be a renewed focus on business routes with the new head of business development, where he has said himself he doesnt expect an upturn in leisure routes for a few years. Olympics Tuesday Crete flight with Aegean appears to have been moved to Belfast for S13 so they appear to have gone, though I believe there may be some effort being made to stop a pullout.
I'm hoping for some positive news regarding scheduled services in the next few weeks.
So far, 1xweekly Bulgaria flight. This down from 30 weekly flights just a few years ago. Problem clearly is that HUY never became a base (except that part based XL), and they had too much to lose, which they evidently now have done.
JetXtra are making some noise again, I suspect it will remain just that. There seems to be a renewed focus on business routes with the new head of business development, where he has said himself he doesnt expect an upturn in leisure routes for a few years. Olympics Tuesday Crete flight with Aegean appears to have been moved to Belfast for S13 so they appear to have gone, though I believe there may be some effort being made to stop a pullout.
I'm hoping for some positive news regarding scheduled services in the next few weeks.
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Another update from jetXtra.
I hope the airport aren't giving this 'outfit' the time of day, or at least if they are then applying due dilligence.
The CAA said the name is not the issue. They started selling flights offering ATOL cover, when they didn't even have the correct licences in place. The CAA have a document giving a detailed description the application process for those operators requesting ATOL cover, and as you would expect there is a pretty stringent set of criteria. The fact that they havent been granted the relevent operating licences would suggest that there is a major flaw in their business plan, and that the CAA cannot take them too seriously.
Tim Lee has posted elsewhere that he needed an investment of something like £50million for his Flyforbeans startup. Who in their right mind would stump up that sort of money considering the state of the economy? I would assume this would allow them to at least lease aircraft to operate under their own AOC.
Jetxtra intend to be nothing more than a ticketing agent. They planned to sell seats on a Spanish based charter aircraft, using that operators AOC. I expect that very little would be invested by jetXtra as they are in effect a paper airline, with absolutely no tangible assets. Why would the CAA take the risk with this kind of arrangement? I know Manx2 operate a similar setup, but surely there are differences between a small regional operator serving a niche market, and a budding low-cost leisure airline? Effectively what is planned is the same as what Martin Halstead had done with Varsity and AlphaOne.
Its quite disheartening to read that Blackpool are getting the very routes that have a proven record of selling well from HUY for over a decade. Jet2 seem uninterested in both HUY and DSA, prefering their passengers to use bigger bases at EMA and LBA. You cannot blame them, however what HUY needs is an established operator, or IMO they are best just looking to maintain what they have got, and hope that the charter market will pick up again eventually. That is unless of course there ever is a serious attempt at starting a proper airline with a sound business case, sufficient financial backing and people behind it with significant experience in the industry.
Another update from jetXtra.
I hope the airport aren't giving this 'outfit' the time of day, or at least if they are then applying due dilligence.
The CAA said the name is not the issue. They started selling flights offering ATOL cover, when they didn't even have the correct licences in place. The CAA have a document giving a detailed description the application process for those operators requesting ATOL cover, and as you would expect there is a pretty stringent set of criteria. The fact that they havent been granted the relevent operating licences would suggest that there is a major flaw in their business plan, and that the CAA cannot take them too seriously.
Tim Lee has posted elsewhere that he needed an investment of something like £50million for his Flyforbeans startup. Who in their right mind would stump up that sort of money considering the state of the economy? I would assume this would allow them to at least lease aircraft to operate under their own AOC.
Jetxtra intend to be nothing more than a ticketing agent. They planned to sell seats on a Spanish based charter aircraft, using that operators AOC. I expect that very little would be invested by jetXtra as they are in effect a paper airline, with absolutely no tangible assets. Why would the CAA take the risk with this kind of arrangement? I know Manx2 operate a similar setup, but surely there are differences between a small regional operator serving a niche market, and a budding low-cost leisure airline? Effectively what is planned is the same as what Martin Halstead had done with Varsity and AlphaOne.
Its quite disheartening to read that Blackpool are getting the very routes that have a proven record of selling well from HUY for over a decade. Jet2 seem uninterested in both HUY and DSA, prefering their passengers to use bigger bases at EMA and LBA. You cannot blame them, however what HUY needs is an established operator, or IMO they are best just looking to maintain what they have got, and hope that the charter market will pick up again eventually. That is unless of course there ever is a serious attempt at starting a proper airline with a sound business case, sufficient financial backing and people behind it with significant experience in the industry.
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Think Jet2 could make a success out of HUY just like they can out of BLK. However BLK-MAN are alot further apart then HUY-LBA-EMA and i don't see them wanting to dilute passenger numbers at both airports. Maybe we could see Jet2 W routes with a BLK or EMA based aircraft possibly in the future to PMI, AGP & ALC.
pug said:
Think Jet2 could make a success out of HUY just like they can out of BLK. However BLK-MAN are alot further apart then HUY-LBA-EMA and i don't see them wanting to dilute passenger numbers at both airports. Maybe we could see Jet2 W routes with a BLK or EMA based aircraft possibly in the future to PMI, AGP & ALC.
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I think we will see them at Doncaster before we see them at Humberside unfortunately. No love in the aviation industry, and nobody to compete with at Humberside.. Humberside is a bigger market than Blackpool, and is actually further away than EMA and LBA than BLK is from MAN.
I think we will see them at Doncaster before we see them at Humberside unfortunately. No love in the aviation industry, and nobody to compete with at Humberside.. Humberside is a bigger market than Blackpool, and is actually further away than EMA and LBA than BLK is from MAN.
Jordan-34092
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Like I said it be good if they decided to launch five routes from HUY not a base but operated on a W Leg from another airport.
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Like I said it be good if they decided to launch five routes from HUY not a base but operated on a W Leg from another airport.
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AMS 9805, -4%
ABZ 2717, -4.6%
PMI 1564, -21.7%
DLM 1483, -57.8%
HER 1282, -4.9%
JER 374, -11%
BOJ 1371, +90%
24,250 -26.5%
Truly dreadful, but no worse than was to be expected. No end in sight unfortunately.
AMS 9805, -4%
ABZ 2717, -4.6%
PMI 1564, -21.7%
DLM 1483, -57.8%
HER 1282, -4.9%
JER 374, -11%
BOJ 1371, +90%
24,250 -26.5%
Truly dreadful, but no worse than was to be expected. No end in sight unfortunately.
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