Potential Routes

[Nuffsaid]

No further news on easyJet’s 23 Uk airport. Most likely to be East Midlands where they last served in 2010.

 

[Jerry]

No further news on easyJet’s 23 Uk airport. Most likely to be East Midlands where they last served in 2010.

No nothing. Most likely will be EMA although would be great to see them at Cardiff there's probably more chance of seeing Air New Zealand flying from Cardiff but one can hope!

 

[Matt995]

No further news on easyJet’s 23 Uk airport. Most likely to be East Midlands where they last served in 2010.

why would Easyjet want to start a base for at East Midlands, when they currenty have no flights there, and are expanding just down the road? It won't be East Midlands, most likely Newcastle or Leeds/Bradford, Cardiff is more likely than EMA.

 

[Severn]

why would Easyjet want to start a base for at East Midlands, when they currenty have no flights there, and are expanding just down the road? It won't be East Midlands, most likely Newcastle or Leeds/Bradford, Cardiff is more likely than EMA.

I believe it’s just easyJet’s 23rd airport in the UK they might serve, not set up a base. I’m sure EMA/CWL could be in line for an easyJet service to GVA during the winter?

 

[Jerry]

why would Easyjet want to start a base for at East Midlands, when they currenty have no flights there, and are expanding just down the road? It won't be East Midlands, most likely Newcastle or Leeds/Bradford, Cardiff is more likely than EMA.

I don't think a base was suggested but a new non based route instead. That's why it would be a new airport for them.

 

[Nuffsaid]

Reading Sean’s post again, there is nothing to suggest a base merely flights from a 23rd airport.

 

[Jerry]

Should the focus for Cardiff for route development be on aircraft size rather than frequency for routes? Especially routes like Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin, Edinburgh etc. that might have more restrictions.
Should the airport look to reward airlines in some way for the use of bigger more fuel efficient aircraft. Ie 737MAX8200 for Ryanair routes, A320neo for Vueling, 737 MAX8 for TUI, ATR72 for Loganair, E195 E2 for KLM.

 

[Samdorob]

Should the focus for Cardiff for route development be on aircraft size rather than frequency for routes? Especially routes like Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin, Edinburgh etc. that might have more restrictions.
Should the airport look to reward airlines in some way for the use of bigger more fuel efficient aircraft. Ie 737MAX8200 for Ryanair routes, A320neo for Vueling, 737 MAX8 for TUI, ATR72 for Loganair, E195 E2 for KLM.

I think the issue with reduced frequency is people will just turn elsewhere to get the flight on the days they want. The one benefit which we’ve seen with Logan’s is that using a larger aircraft can bring the cost of a ticket down. With all that said I think frequency is more important than size especially when it comes to enticing people to fly from Cardiff - provided the price isn’t massively more than a comparable route at another airport.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Should the focus for Cardiff for route development be on aircraft size rather than frequency for routes? Especially routes like Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin, Edinburgh etc. that might have more restrictions.
Should the airport look to reward airlines in some way for the use of bigger more fuel efficient aircraft. Ie 737MAX8200 for Ryanair routes, A320neo for Vueling, 737 MAX8 for TUI, ATR72 for Loganair, E195 E2 for KLM.

It would probably vary by route, but not sure it should be incentivised by CWL unless they see considerable return from the investment, which is unlikely.

Amsterdam - focus should be in increased frequency. I doubt the E2 would make a difference to the cost of a ticket.
Dublin - 737-800 is perfectly adequate, focus should be on daily flights, if not double daily on some days.
Edinburgh - ATR to improve pricing structure to bring prices down.
Vueling - A320neo only carries 6 more passengers than A320. Not sure CWL should be incentivising that for little gain. It would be good to see the A321 during the peak busy months.

 

[Jerry]

I think the issue with reduced frequency is people will just turn elsewhere to get the flight on the days they want.

I suppose it depends on whether you think you can get the airline to add more frequency to a route. Loganair with Edinburgh could be an example there and KLM with Amsterdam. With bigger aircraft at least you can offer more seats.

Vueling - A320neo only carries 6 more passengers than A320.

With Vueling it would be a case of guaranteeing a more environmentally friendly aircraft same with other routes with the ATR72, MAX8 and E195 E2.
Less flights with more environmentally friendly aircraft but the amount of seats and passenger numbers still going up.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

That should be the standard, but every airport probably wants that. It shouldn't be high on the priorities for a financially struggling airport to be paying extra for though as there would be very little gain of revenue and passenger numbers.

It also would only make a difference in numbers if flights were consistently 100% full, otherwise it's pointless providing extra seats, for those seats to just be empty.

 

[Jerry]

It shouldn't be high on the priorities for a financially struggling airport to be paying extra for though as there would be very little gain of revenue and passenger numbers.

But then how do you get airlines to grow on routes without some sort of incentive and it doesn't have to be a cash one. There's no doubting CWL is a struggling airport but if it can't grow the passengers on routes it's going to continue in that way even if it grows the non passenger side of the business.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

But then how do you get airlines to grow on routes without some sort of incentive and it doesn't have to be a cash one. There's no doubting CWL is a struggling airport but if it can't grow the passengers on routes it's going to continue in that way even if it grows the non passenger side of the business.

Should the airport look to reward airlines in some way for the use of bigger more fuel efficient aircraft

I didnt suggest not giving incentives.

The suggestion was to incentivise bigger, more fuel efficient aircraft, but the airlines that operate from CWL would only provide bigger aircraft that would equate to a small amount of seats per flight. CWL paying for that wouldn't get much return.

Incentives should be used for more frequency and new routes.

To improve numbers on current flights should be a given for any airport. The use of social media can help with that, and it's free.
Relations with tour operators, and local businesses, being in the public eye. Paying for bigger aircraft won't get people through the door.

 

[Nigel B]

I Think Frequency/timings is the key,especially for hubs. eg..20 years ago KLM were in 4 times per day with a mix of Fokker 70 and Fokker 100s,EDI was twice daily with BMI on B.733,CDG twice daily with Air Wales AT45.

 

[Jerry]

I Think Frequency/timings is the key,especially for hubs. eg..20 years ago KLM were in 4 times per day with a mix of Fokker 70 and Fokker 100s,EDI was twice daily with BMI on B.733,CDG twice daily with Air Wales AT45.

Maybe i'm being pessimistic but I don't see those routes ever getting back to those sort of frequencies not at least for a very long time. Edinburgh seems to be a struggle just to get to daily, Paris is gone as a route and uncertain when or if it'll return and who will operate it and KLM cutting the overnight from the standard schedule is worrying though of course a 3rd daily flight could be introduced without it being a night stopper.

 

[Jerry]

SeanM is teasing that Easyjet are going to launch their 23rd UK airport. I know there's more chance of hell freezing over than it being Cardiff but I can't just not hope it will be!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914714774400622879

Considering that the Newcastle base has been announced i wonder if we could see this rumour get announced soon?
Obviously very long shot it would be Cardiff but still can hope.

 

[Seasider]

As far as easyJet are concerned, I think that they believe that Bristol serves the needs of South Wales.

 

[Jerry]

As far as easyJet are concerned, I think that they believe that Bristol serves the needs of South Wales.

Most likely but we can always hope!
I think as well they like many other airlines don't see Wales as a destination in it's own right either.

 

[Jerry]

Although it's highly likely it's fake there's job positions posted online for an Easyjet station manager at Cardiff Airport.
It's a certainty it's a fake posting but I thought it was worth mentioning.

SeanM has posted a tease post for June so hopefully something will materialise for CWL.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929103765010796823

 

[Samdorob]

Although it's highly likely it's fake there's job positions posted online for an Easyjet station manager at Cardiff Airport.
It's a certainty it's a fake posting but I thought it was worth mentioning.

SeanM has posted a tease post for June so hopefully something will materialise for CWL.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929103765010796823

So I saw this too. When I did a bit more digging there were other positions including cabin crew advertised for easyJet at Cardiff. The only issue is when you clicked through they go to a dead link.

A few possibilities here:
- They’re not for Cardiff, but just trying to attract people from the Cardiff area. E.g I think Emirates had a recruitment drive in Cardiff recently.
- It’s legitimate, but released earlier than they should have been as they only appear on this one third party website.
- It’s fake, potentially some automatic AI rubbish.

There’s other listings for easyJet related positions here. Unfortunately to me it looks a little too good to be true: https://uk.clickajobs.com/jobs/airport/cardiff-south-glamorgan-wales