Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[NOSIGWX]

Monday 13 February 2017 (1200 h.


Several aircraft have been holding and flying circuits for the last 15-20 minutes but they now seem to be landing. Was there a short-lived problem at BRS?

Just a busy inbound rush & not enough airspace to sequence them all straight in for an approach. It's more common for this to happen when 09 is in use & increasingly it's not just a summer phenomenon.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Just a busy inbound rush & not enough airspace to sequence them all straight in for an approach. It's more common for this to happen when 09 is in use & increasingly it's not just a summer phenomenon.

Many thanks for such a swift reply, NOSIGWX.

 

[kraktoa]

The usual twitter feed complaints about immigration this morning too.

Is April 2017 12 pm onwards peak going to be significantly higher than the same period last year? Talk of double the number of passengers on some days. Ie: usually translates to many more flights.

Anyone with a mayfly comparison?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The usual twitter feed complaints about immigration this morning too.

Is April 2017 12 pm onwards peak going to be significantly higher than the same period last year? Talk of double the number of passengers on some days. Ie: usually translates to many more flights.

Anyone with a mayfly comparison?

I have Mayflys for each month last year. In summer there were typically 95-105 arrivals and 95-105 departures each day, depending on day of the week, and about 70-75% of arrivals occurred from midday onwards. The number of departures after midday was usually slightly less than arrivals as the morning peak accounted for a good many.

As an illustration I looked at August Fridays in detail, with this result:

Departures: 38 prior to midday; 69 after midday*
Arrivals: 26 prior to midday; 80 after midday*

* no flight was actually scheduled to take off or land at midday on these Fridays. Friday was also one of the busiest days of the week

 

[superking]

Monday 13 February 2017 (1200 hours)

Several aircraft have been holding and flying circuits for the last 15-20 minutes but they now seem to be landing. Was there a short-lived problem at BRS?

yes there was a problem with a helli working for electric duties. it had fuel problem light on,so they stopped departures and landings. it got down ok and went south side. 15 mins later it called for start and taxi. it got to runway and same thing happened, so it went back for more checks. it went up about a hour later and was ok. it did pylon checks round cheddar. landed at polo aviation congresbury when work done with no more probs. I was at winters lane watching it all going on.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Friday 17 February 2017

The lunchtime Aurigny rotation from/to Guernsey has been cancelled today. Looking at the Guernsey arrivals/departures boards it seems that most flights there have been cancelled or seriously delayed, apparently because of adverse weather.

 

[andrewgreen]

The Bmir flight from Frankfurt diverted to Birmingham tonight and there are 3 other bmir aircraft in the hold but everything else seems to be landing without problem , is this a problem with bmir crews , or the aircraft or something else ?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The Bmir flight from Frankfurt diverted to Birmingham tonight and there are 3 other bmir aircraft in the hold but everything else seems to be landing without problem , is this a problem with bmir crews , or the aircraft or something else ?

Runway 27 is the active runway and is equipped with Cat 3b ILS. It looks as though everything is landing this evening except the bmir Embraers. Everything else is either Airbus or Boeing (except the KLM E 190) and they have landed/hopefully will continue to land.

The Boeings and Airbuses usually get in under Cat 3 on 27 as the aircraft and crews are compatible/current with training. I'm guessing so is the KLM E 190 as it has landed. The turbo props/small jets are not usually Cat 3 compliant so invariably divert when Cat3 is operating. As it happens the only turbo props/small jets this evening are the bmir E145s. I expect Aer Lingus Regional, Aurigny etc would also have found difficulty in landing this evening if Cat 3 was being used by the bigger jets.

Addendum (2210 19 Feb 2017)

The bmir from Munich and bmir (for Brussels Airlines) from Brussels have both now landed in the last 15 minutes so hopefully conditions are improving.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Monday 20 February 2017

Fog problems at BRS this morning - so far:

0750 bmi regional BM 1802 from Aberdeen diverted to Exeter - return to ABZ 'by road'
0800 Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart) EI3280 from Dublin cancelled
0845 KLM C'Hopper KL 1049 from Amsterdam diverted to Exeter - return to AMS cancelled
0910 WOW WW 830 from Keflavik diverted to Manchester - return to KEF 'by road'
1005 Brussels Airlines (op by bmi regional) SN 2055 from Brussels diverted to Birmingham
1105 Ryanair FR 8297 from Alicante diverted to Birmingham
1130 Ryanair FR 8122 from Malaga diverted to Birmingham
1150 Aurigny GR 642 from Guernsey cancelled (and return GR 643) - numerous weather problems at Guernsey

The Ryanairs from Alicante and Malaga had been circling for a considerable time, especially the Alicante, but during that time an easyJet from Amsterdam landed. Eventually the Ryanairs from ALC and AGP set off to divert to BHX but before they arrived another Ryanair, FR 8255 from Gdansk, landed at BRS followed by Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart) EI 3282 from Dublin. I suppose that after circling fuel may have been an issue if they considered flying back to BRS.

Also showing following departures altered:

0830 bmi regional BM 1811 to Milan Malpensa 'by road'
0940 Germania ST 3596 to Tromsoe 'by road'
1040 Brussels Airlines (op by bmi regional) SN 2056 to Brussels cancelled

Addendum (1225 hours 20.2.17)

Still some problems with an Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart) from Cork and bmi regionals from Hamburg and Frankfurt circling. However, an easyJet from Malaga has just landed. Presumably the Cat 3b helped the easyJet.

 

[BRSregular]

What's that flight to Tromso?

 

[superking]

my guess a Newmarket day trip.want more than a day to tromso by road thou.

 

[big g]

What's that flight to Tromso?

It was a Cruise flight.

@TLY when you see "By Road" the passengers for outbound flight are being transported to the diversion airport by coach or taxi, the website doesn't display the full message that is showing on the information boards in the terminal.

 

[BRSregular]

I see. I wish it was easier to get to Tromso. Would love to visit there but Norwegian from LGW via Oslo is bit of a pain

 

[Kingshat]

There are a number of questions on this thread about approach minima and what these are at Bristol. Below are the figures that generally apply, but these do vary slightly from airline company to company:

1. Runway 09 is ILS CAT 1 only - minima IRVR 750m and decision height 200ft (height above the threshold that pilots must be able to identify defined visual references to continue the approach to land);
2. Runway 27 ILS CAT 1 approach - minima IRVR 750m and decision height 200ft;
3. Runway 27 ILS CAT 2 approach - minima IRVR 300m and decision height 100ft;
4. Runway 27 ILS CAT 3A approach - minima IRVR 200m and decision height 50ft or no decision height;
5. Runway 27 ILS CAT 3B approach - minima IRVR 75m and no decision height. This IRVR is to allow pilots to safely taxi.

Notes:

• ILS CAT 1 minima is 750m due to the length of the approach lighting. In the future some airlines may be able to fly 'Lower than Standard Cat 1' which would likely give a minima of 550m.
• Aircraft serviceability and pilot currency may prevent some flights completing a Cat 2 or 3 approach when similar aircraft from the same company are able to do so.
• Very strong winds (cross or head) may prevent aircraft flying a Cat 2 or 3 approach.
• Tailwinds up to 10 knots may be acceptable for a Cat 2 or 3 approach, but this limit may be lowered due to the runway surface condition (damp, wet etc.).
• RNAV and NDB approaches have higher minima than ILS as these are non-precision i.e. No electronic glidepath information.

I hope this helps members understand why holding and diversions occur on days such as today.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Monday 20 February 2017

The fog seemed to linger all day with the turbo props and small jets mainly affected.

The final count-up seems to be (from FR24 and the BRS website arrivals/departures boards):

Arrivals

bmi regional (including flights to/from Brussels for Brussels Airlines)

Aberdeen, Brussels, Hamburg andFrankfurt diverted to Exeter; Paris Cdg diverted to unknown

Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart)

Dublin cancelled; Cork and Dublin diverted to Birmingham; one Dublin landed (the only turbo-prop, small jet to land all day until the late evening Brussels Airlines op by bmi regional landed?)

WOW

Keflavik diverted to Manchester although it seems the aircraft later positioned to Bristol and departed for Keflavik nearly five hours late

KLM Cityhopper

First inbound of day diverted to Exeter

Ryanair

Alicante and Malaga diverted to Birmingham, return flights to Spain apparently operated from BHX

Aurigny

Guernsey cancelled, probably because of weather problems in Channel Islands

Flybe/Blue Islands

Jersey cancelled, probably because of weather problems in Channel islands

Departures

bmi regional (including flights to/from Brussels for Brussels Airlines

Frankfurt (x 2), Brussels, Munich, Hamburg, Paris Cdg, Dusseldorf and Aberdeen all cancelled

Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart)

Dublin (x 2) cancelled

KLM Cityhopper

Amsterdam (second outbound of day) cancelled

Aurigny

Guernsey cancelled, probably because of weather problems in Channel Islands

Flybe/Blue Islands

Jersey cancelled, probably because of weather problems in Channel islands

The forecast suggests that tomorrow might not be much better weather-wise. bmi regional may well face difficulties again. I don't know where their aircraft are at present.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Thursday 23 February 2017

Two cancellations today, both announced last night and both due to forecast high winds (Storm Doris) at destination airports (DUB and AMS).

EI 3280 due 0800 from Dublin and return leg cancelled
KL 1053 due 1650 from Amsterdam and return leg cancelled

Everything else landed so far as I can see and the wind in the Bristol area appears to have abated somewhat for the rest of the evening.

 

[NOSIGWX]

Thursday 23 February 2017

Two cancellations today, both announced last night and both due to forecast high winds (Storm Doris) at destination airports (DUB and AMS).

EI 3280 due 0800 from Dublin and return leg cancelled
KL 1053 due 1650 from Amsterdam and return leg cancelled

Everything else landed so far as I can see and the wind in the Bristol area appears to have abated somewhat for the rest of the evening.

BRS also gained a BHX bound Ryanair B738 from DUB this afternoon. After 2 go arounds at BHX due crosswinds, they opted to divert to BRS.

 

[big g]

EZY AMS cancelled due to the storm and the Flybe incedent on the runway in AMS.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The strike season is with us again, with no surprise that the French are leading the band.

It's reported that air traffic controllers working at airports in Brest, Bordeaux and Aix-en-Provence will stage the walk-out over a dispute surrounding working hours and conditions, but flights across the country will be affected including those in and out of Paris. The action will begin today and is due to last four days.

I can't see any cancellations yet at BRS today.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...airports-charles-de-gaulle-orly-a7609711.html

 

[superking]

The fog rolling in here at Weston, will it cause problems at airport like it has the last couple of nights. time will tell.