Route Development & Rumours

[Marko1]

Surely the council would have to take into account local employment prospects and the economic contribution the airport provides to the local community . They would shoot themselves in the foot by rejecting the plans

 

[Jerry]

The latter would be good news in the future for such airports as Exeter, Cardiff and even Newquay and Bournemouth, although the extra flights that would emanate from those airports would still emit the same gases into the atmoshere of the UK as additional flights from BRS.

Ryanair, TUI and too a lessor extent Thomas Cook are already expanding into those airports. The key question would be what would Easyjet do.

Surely the council would have to take into account local employment prospects and the economic contribution the airport provides to the local community . They would shoot themselves in the foot by rejecting the plans

From the councils point of view they'd mostly likely say that they would have to weigh that against the damage to the environment and would know want to know how many local people are employed by the airport.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Ryanair, TUI and too a lessor extent Thomas Cook are already expanding into those airports. The key question

From the councils point of view they'd mostly likely say that they would have to weigh that against the damage to the environment and would know want to know how many local people are employed by the airport.

Aviation will continue to grow despite the best efforts of the climate change people. I mentioned somewhere else recently that China is building over 200 new airports in the next 15 years and India 100. They both expect considerable growth in passenger numbers. Will the UK really be the odd one out and cut off its nose to spite its face whilst the rest of the world continues to fly more and more?

If UK aviation continues to grow, even if not at the same pace as in some other countries, regional airports might reasonably expect to be part of it, so it stands to reason that if an airport like BRS is capped at 10 mppa growth that would have occurred there is very likely to be transferred to other airports in the region or nearby region (nearby country in the case of CWL). That is on top of any inherent growth at such airports.

It seems to be accepted all round that aviation worldwide contributes just over 2% of greenhouse gas emissions but it gets more than its share of opposition from activists as many of them still see air travel as a form of elitism, and it's an easy and spectacular target into the bagain.

Bristol Airport is one of the largest employers in North Somerset so that would be a consideration without doubt but, loooking at the individuals who now represent many of the seats within the authority, it's realistic to believe that they will be well represented on the planning committee that will determine the applications, and their backgrounds don't suggest an overwhelming degree of sympathy with the notion of airport expansion.

If an appeal went to the Planning Inspectorate the professional inspector appointed to enquire into the matter would judge it dispassionately but there would be no guarantee that a local authority rejection of the airport's applications would be overturned.

 

[Kernow Bravo]

Meanwhile in the background there is still the 3rd runway at LHR debate which essentially has the potential to increase it's catchment radius purely by virtue of the services that would allow it to offer. This could be seen as a safety net by local authorities minded to obstruct regional airport growth, although that position would hardly be justifiable from a 'green' perspective of course.

 

[Jerry]

although that position would hardly be justifiable from a 'green' perspective of course.

Unless they take a as long as it's not on my doorstep attitude?

 

[Red Flyer]

After all the conjecture recently you can expect the first update and initial programme with SN in the next few days with further update to follow.

 

[superking]

About time BRU timetable will be released,but I wont hold my breath on this one.There has been many news bits about this route and they all say something different.

 

[alphagolf]

After all the conjecture recently you can expect the first update and initial programme with SN in the next few days with further update to follow.

Having just taken a look at the booking pages there seems to be some work going on as it’s showing 3 departures BRS-BRU but only on BRU-BRS. One rotation out and back suggests operated by Cityjet using a CR9, the other 2 just say Brussels Airlines.
So think it’s work in progress let’s see what transpires as the days go by.

 

[alphagolf]

Having just taken a look at the booking pages there seems to be some work going on as it’s showing 3 departures BRS-BRU but only on BRU-BRS. One rotation out and back suggests operated by Cityjet using a CR9, the other 2 just say Brussels Airlines.
So think it’s work in progress let’s see what transpires as the days go by.

Having looked again it’s seems to start at once daily on a CR9, then moves to twice daily on an AR8, I wouldn’t take any of what I have said as confirmed, still think there’s more to come.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Having looked again it’s seems to start at once daily on a CR9, then moves to twice daily on an AR8, I wouldn’t take any of what I have said as confirmed, still think there’s more to come.

Red Flyer who always seems well informed suggested there would be an initial programme in the first update in the next few days, with further update to follow.

 

[Kernow Bravo]

Looks like more sensible pricing now loaded on the SN website for BRS-BRU........

 

[superking]

Looks like more sensible pricing now loaded on the SN website for BRS-BRU........

Is there any date confirmed for BRU route start date.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Is there any date confirmed for BRU route start date.

The booking engine is showing from 1 September. That's been the apparent start (re-start) date on the booking engine for a couple of months or more but in the past week the site has been actively updated so it would seem that is when the service will begin again.

Currently though the booking engine is showing only one daily flight (none on Saturdays) with CityJet CRJ-900 (90 seats) aircraft.

Given that this route is used for connecting onto Brussels Airlines long-haul at BRU once daily isn't the best frequency although it's obviously better than nothing at all.

Red Flyer says that this is the 'initial programme' with further updates to follow.

 

[Marko1]

Brussels goes twice a day from December. An early morning and a late pm dep from brs with the aircraft(rj85) nightstopping . Timings good from brs but not so good from bru with only late pm and late evening departures to Bristol. Not so good for connections particularly long haul

 

[Jerry]

Brussels goes twice a day from December. An early morning and a late pm dep from brs with the aircraft(rj85) nightstopping . Timings good from brs but not so good from bru with only late pm and late evening departures to Bristol. Not so good for connections particularly long haul

More suitable for European connections maybe?

 

[Jerry]

Newcastle have announced that Lufthansa from February will operate Munich 6 weekly. Anyone know if a similar announcement is due for Bristol?
If not I wonder why Newcastle can secure Lufthansa but Bristol can't?

 

[Marko1]

Newcastle have announced that Lufthansa from February will operate Munich 6 weekly. Anyone know if a similar announcement is due for Bristol?
If not I wonder why Newcastle can secure Lufthansa but Bristol can't?

I’ve been thinking exactly the same thing. I’m not sure what is happening with replacement routes at the moment. Very promising voices early on and now nothing. Still no official announcement of the return of the Brussels route , Paris reduces back to once a day in November and capacity on the Amsterdam route also reduces for the winter season.

 

[forest1979]

Totally echo these thoughts... what had Newcastle got that Bristol can’t attract?
I would say the Germans love the west of England, good business links to the M4 corridor etc.. I feel Bristol needs some good links with scheduled state carriers. I fear however it’s easy all the way which could turn on a dime when you put all your eggs in one basket.. Frankfurt and or Munich would be most welcome, even with their subsidiaries... I’m still hoping Turkish May turn up...

 

[Jerry]

I wonder if they are hoping that Easyjet will takeover Munich and the transfer passengers will use KLM and Brussels Airlines?
Or that Newcastle were just able to offer Lufthansa a better deal.

 

[tpm]

Just to let you all know, if the previous pattern (of new routes appearing not long after I could've used them) continues we can be looking forward to the introduction of a new route to Oslo in the next 6-18 months