I think they should open up a little more - my anecdotal experience is that a lot of people have been breaking the rules for weeks. We have to start moving the economy and we could be living with this thing for some time. A few of my friends are a bit furlough happy at the moment - they are better off (not paying commuting, childcare, entertainment etc) than when they were working and I think that is dangerous too. I also have some friends who are really depressed by the whole thing and the indirect health costs of this prolonged lockdown also worry me deeply.

Not forgetting all the delayed cancer treatments, dental, surgery etc

France, Spain, Italy who were also severely hit seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach - I just hope the unions do not politicise this.
 
I think they should open up a little more - my anecdotal experience is that a lot of people have been breaking the rules for weeks. We have to start moving the economy and we could be living with this thing for some time. A few of my friends are a bit furlough happy at the moment - they are better off (not paying commuting, childcare, entertainment etc) than when they were working and I think that is dangerous too. I also have some friends who are really depressed by the whole thing and the indirect health costs of this prolonged lockdown also worry me deeply.

Not forgetting all the delayed cancer treatments, dental, surgery etc

France, Spain, Italy who were also severely hit seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach - I just hope the unions do not politicise this.
Spot on, TOM

Your description entirely conforms with what I've seen and heard across the border in the West of England.
 
In general i think people are essentially lifting the lockdown themselves but i do think the WG needs to take a cautious approach but i do fear there could be a second wave of the virus.
 
I think they should open up a little more - my anecdotal experience is that a lot of people have been breaking the rules for weeks. We have to start moving the economy and we could be living with this thing for some time. A few of my friends are a bit furlough happy at the moment - they are better off (not paying commuting, childcare, entertainment etc) than when they were working and I think that is dangerous too. I also have some friends who are really depressed by the whole thing and the indirect health costs of this prolonged lockdown also worry me deeply.

Not forgetting all the delayed cancer treatments, dental, surgery etc

France, Spain, Italy who were also severely hit seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach - I just hope the unions do not politicise this.
I couldn't agree more. If anything I think we should have have a far more stringent lockdown but the UK government decided on a softly softly approach. This has ultimately lead to a delay in getting covid cases down.
 
I think they should open up a little more - my anecdotal experience is that a lot of people have been breaking the rules for weeks. We have to start moving the economy and we could be living with this thing for some time. A few of my friends are a bit furlough happy at the moment - they are better off (not paying commuting, childcare, entertainment etc) than when they were working and I think that is dangerous too. I also have some friends who are really depressed by the whole thing and the indirect health costs of this prolonged lockdown also worry me deeply.

Not forgetting all the delayed cancer treatments, dental, surgery etc

France, Spain, Italy who were also severely hit seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach - I just hope the unions do not politicise this.

I agree. I have noticed this week the lockdown is beginning to have an impact on My mental health, So it would be nice to get out and about and do a few more things now.

I also need to go to the dentist and vets for my dog.
I’m not expecting mass gatherings or going to restaurants, but meeting up with family and friends outdoors from 2m away would be appreciated.
 
Just 4 deaths in Wales today from covid19, although of course, very sad, it’s time to get the engines of the Welsh Economy fired back up.

Time to get moving.
Need to be cautious and wary of a second wave but I do feel things are slowly getting back to some normality. Though no doubt social distancing will be with us for a long time.
 
Hopefully we might get some more railway stations and railway reopened in the future!
 
Though no doubt social distancing will be with us for a long time.

If it's still in place in say a year from now I can't think how professional football, rugby and other professional spectator sports will survive. The same applies to theatres, cinemas, other indoor places of entertainment including pubs, restaurants, arenas, clubs etc. Even if a percentage of the usual spectators/audience/clientele is permitted to attend it's highly unlikely that would be sufficient to make such events viable for very long.

Ditto, buses, trains and planes. Some companies are reducing seating capacity by as much as 75% on buses at the moment. That will be impossible to continue for long unless the government pays the bill. I doubt that it could afford to for a year given all the other calls on the public purse.
 
On the Badgerline bus route by where I live,they have replaced single decker busses with double deckers.Its been like that for a week now.
 
On the Badgerline bus route by where I live,they have replaced single decker busses with double deckers.Its been like that for a week now.
In some areas the 80-seater double-deckers have had their seating capacity reduced to 20 with no standing passengers allowed.
 

Interesting article from the FM of Wales. He even said there were advantages of being in the union, and the case for Independence weakened, which is what shocked me.
Annoyingly, It looks like it’s going to be July before the 5 mile rule is removed in Wales.
 

Interesting article from the FM of Wales. He even said there were advantages of being in the union, and the case for Independence weakened, which is what shocked me.
Annoyingly, It looks like it’s going to be July before the 5 mile rule is removed in Wales.
New Zealand, which admittedly handled the virus situation probably better than any country including a strict lockdown, has now announced they are returning to their Level One from midnight today which means that life is back to normal except for allowing people into the country. They relaxed restrictions in premise such as bars recently and that has not brought about infections.

The main point about this is that New Zealand is in its winter, the period the FM seems concerned about here.
 
“Imagine if we had been entirely on our own. Imagine if we were trying to create a testing regime with no access to the advice of Sage [Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies]."
Any independent country would have their own version and access to advise and help from the WHO no doubt.

“What if we were trying to compete for PPE in a globally competitive market when we have 3m people to be buying for without the clout in the marketplace that buying on behalf of 60m gives you."
Other small countries didn't seem to have a problem. Ireland seemed to manage quite well importing PPE from China.
I think his comments just show a complete lack of faith in the ability of Wales and it's people. It's like we aren't capable so have to have England do things for us.

The tourism industry is going to take a while to recover I just hope it gets the support it needs to help it recover.

The 5 mile rule is only a guideline. They just want people to stay local.
 
“Imagine if we had been entirely on our own. Imagine if we were trying to create a testing regime with no access to the advice of Sage [Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies]."
Any independent country would have their own version and access to advise and help from the WHO no doubt.

“What if we were trying to compete for PPE in a globally competitive market when we have 3m people to be buying for without the clout in the marketplace that buying on behalf of 60m gives you."
Other small countries didn't seem to have a problem. Ireland seemed to manage quite well importing PPE from China.
I think his comments just show a complete lack of faith in the ability of Wales and it's people. It's like we aren't capable so have to have England do things for us.

The tourism industry is going to take a while to recover I just hope it gets the support it needs to help it recover.

The 5 mile rule is only a guideline. They just want people to stay local.

He’s got a point though. The same argument is often used in argument for remaining in the EU.
 
New Zealand, which admittedly handled the virus situation probably better than any country including a strict lockdown, has now announced they are returning to their Level One from midnight today which means that life is back to normal except for allowing people into the country. They relaxed restrictions in premise such as bars recently and that has not brought about infections.

The main point about this is that New Zealand is in its winter, the period the FM seems concerned about here.

New Zealands North Island (Where most of the population is) Winter is much more like Spains winter, while the South is more comparable to the UK as it gets much more Wet.

The Media often compares the UK to New Zealand yet New Zealand has less than a tenth of our population, doesn’t have a National rail network nor really anyway Motorways. Point being, it’s much less easier for much less people to spread the virus around!
 

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