Vueling

[Tinkerman]

Following Jerry’s post above, I also get the feeling that they’re using these slots on relatively short sectors to keep the slots “warm” at ORY.

Happy to be proven wrong in the future, and i really do hope the route is successful with VY. Even going back to the CityJet days when fares were far higher, the loads were far from full back then on a 50-seater.

They’re literally selling the flights off as a complete bargain on the VY app, seems to be the case for all of the ORY based routes that have had numerous sales promotions over the last few weeks. As stated above, probably not the best time to start a new route (or in this case a complete tranche from a new base). Back in “Normal” times, you’d like to think these sort of fares would be highly attractive to far greater volumes of people, including those from across the border.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Vueling have put on extra flights for the 6 nations game against France. Thursday 10th and Sunday 13th March. Along with the usual Saturday flight.

 

[geoff]

That's good news, let's hope Ryanair do the same for the Ireland game, and Loganair for the Scottish one.

 

[fly4gigs]

There was a Vueling competition to win flights to Paris from Cardiff and in the terms and conditions it had blackout dates in the summer. Good news perhaps?

 

[Jerry]

Would be good to see the route return for the summer.

 

[mathers_wales_uk]

I believe the route is still being evaluated for the Summer

 

[Jerry]

I'd be very surprised if Vueling continued with Paris because of the new restrictions on the French side.

France Bans Almost All Travelers from the U.K. to Slow Spread of Omicron

France will ban tourists and almost all business travelers from the U.K. under tough new travel restrictions aimed at slowing the spread of the omicron variant.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[geoff]

Jerry they may keep the flights running in order to keep the slots at Orly.

 

[Jerry]

Jerry they may keep the flights running in order to keep the slots at Orly.

That's true, just really frustrating that the airport can't seem to catch a break at the moment.

 

[geoff]

The airport is not having any luck at all at present, and no backing at all from the Welsh Government.

 

[Jerry]

The airport is not having any luck at all at present, and no backing at all from the Welsh Government.

Not sure the WG can do much about the French adding restrictions tbh.

 

[MrFenner]

Looks like VY have slimmed down the remainder of their winter schedule and the early part of S22 up to June.

ALC, AGP and PMI all affected. At the moment ORY is due to end in March so hasn't been affected as much...

Omicron and pre and post-travel testing is really taking it's toll!

 

[Jerry]

I'm not surprised. It's looking less likely that there'll be a significant recovery in 2022 for the industry.

 

[Jerry]

For November Vueling stats were
Alicante 2060
Malaga 347
Paris Orly 546

 

[8mileshigh]

Ouch

 

[8mileshigh]

How does that equate to load factors, agp and ory in particular doesn’t look good

 

[Jerry]

How does that equate to load factors, agp and ory in particular doesn’t look good

I'm not sure that Malaga ran for the whole month. But each route was 2 weekly i believe.
Alicante averaged 114 passengers per flight.
Malaga average 21 passengers per flight if it operated all month.
Paris averaged 30 passengers per flight.

 

[geoff]

I read somewhere this week, that the Belfast-Paris Vueling service, has been carrying an average of 11 passengers per flight, so CWL is not on its own.

 

[geoff]

I've just realised it was on the other forum yesterday.(dried plum)

 

[IanFarquharson]

BHX ORY have been better than that but not where you would expect them to be !