My mums friend used to work for MyTravel and she used to think that the merged Thomson group and Thomas Cook Group had huge flaws in their business model. It was fine in the 90's to focus their flying programme around 3 points - LGW, MAN & GLA. The smaller stations such as LBA, MME, LPL, EMA etc would all have the majority of their capacity sold way before the season kicks off. MAN, GLA and LGW would not as there is only the same advance booking market as all the regionals yet they would have sometimes 10-15 aircraft based at those airports. These flights are then filled by last minute bookers at a break even price.

Where I think they have both gone wrong is, when the low costs set up shop the tour ops should have embraced them and let the lcc's dominate MAN, LGW and GLA. Thomson and Thomas Cook should have expanded regional airports in a better way than they have done. This is how Jet2Holidays and easyJetholidays are growing as there still is a huge market for FLEXIBLE package holidays from regional airports yet the big two have ignored that. Say for example a few years ago if you wanted a package holiday to the costa del sol from Leeds, the only day you could take it was on a Sunday with Thomas Cook. Alternatively you drive to Manchester any day of the week and hop an a Thomas Cook flight to Malaga. Welcome the likes of Jet2 and easyJet that changed all this, and over the last year or two MAN has seen massive Jet2 and easyJet growth along with a Ryanair base. Thomson and Thomas Cook were blind, thinking they would keep a stronghold on their main airports. This has cost them dearly and as Thomad Cook was the first one to publically admit it, that has been the best marketing tool possible for Thomson and the lcc's.

Thomas Cook will be the looser here, no matter how much money is piled in, the UK sector makes a huge loss for the group as a whole. I think the likes of LBA will be safe (albeit with a third party subcontractor airline - as mentioned Monarch? Strategic Airlines? Mint Airlines? Jet2?) but the bigger airports will suffer heavily. Jet2, easyJet and Ryanair all rubbing their hands right now!
 
Thomas Cook are currently updating there website today and it looks like they may be about to fill in the gaps of the Leeds/Bradford based aircraft next summer 2012 programme with new routes into Greece.

As both Santorini and Kefalonia have sometime today been added into the drop down menu on there website. Nothing is yet bookable to these destinations as the website is still currently been updated. So maybe one to watch out for!
 
That's very interesting Lbaspotter!

These two routes, to my knowledge haven't been operated before, so should be a good alternative for the airport and Thomas Cook. I think they'll do well as well..!

I hope they do something soon with their flythomascook.co.uk website, the route map still shows Malaga and Reus as destinations. It seems to all be wrong, even for many other airports as well...!
 
I have just noticed that Skiathos has already been announced as a new route down in Bristol commencing 25th May 2012.

Could provide extra reassurance that Skiathos and possibly Kefalonia are to be new routes from LBA.... :smile:
 
Skiathos has been a 'here one year, gone the next' summer charter route from Bristol for 20 years.

It was advertised to operate in summer 11 but didn't (having last operated in summer 10 by Viking/Kiss). I have a feeling that Thomas Cook would have been the carrier in summer 11.

So BRS might not be a reliable guide.
 
Does anybody know what TCX's summer schedule is looking like? & are there any gaps?
Also does anybody know what routes they will be operating over the easter holidays?
 
Mid February to late March 2012 TCX based aircraft operation

Thursdays = LBA-ACE-LBA
Fridays = LBA-TFS-LBA
Saturdays = LBA-FUE-LBA
Sundays = LBA-NBE-LBA-TFS-LBA

Easter & April 2012 TCX programme for the LBA based aircraft is as follows

Mondays = LBA-ACE-LBA (ACE replaces LPA)
Tuesdays = LBA-TFS-LBA
Wednesdays = LBA-ATY-LBA
Thursdays = LBA-ACE-LBA
Fridays = LBA-TFS-LBA-DJM-LBA
Saturdays = LBA-FUE-LBA-BOD-LBA
Sundays = LBA-TFS-LBA-ATY-LBA & non based NBE-LBA-NBE

Summer 2012 TCX based aircraft operation is a follows commencing from May 1st

Mondays = LBA-LPA-LBA-DJM-LBA
Tuesdays = LBA-PMI-LBA-HER-LBA (HER replaces FUE)
Wednesdays = LBA-LCA-LBA-ATY-LBA
Thursdays = LBA-ZTH-LBA (Aircraft spare all afternoon use to run to KOS)
Fridays = LBA-IBZ-LBA-MAH-LBA-DJM-LBA
Saturdays = LBA-PMI-HUY-PMI-LBA (Aircraft spare over night use to run to BOD)
Sundays = LBA-PMI-LBA-TFS-LBA (TFS replaces ATY)

Hope that helps
 
was looking on TCX website about the flights to Tunisa & it seems that they are on a W flight pattern, the departe at 14.50 and arrive at 18.00 and then on the return flight is departes at 10.10 in the morning and arrives back in Leeds at 13.35
 
Ap1995 said:
was looking on TCX website about the flights to Tunisa & it seems that they are on a W flight pattern, the departe at 14.50 and arrive at 18.00 and then on the return flight is departes at 10.10 in the morning and arrives back in Leeds at 13.35

The Tunisia flights change from been operated by the base TCX aircraft to a non based TCX aircraft in April due to the based aircraft having to recommence Antalya flights.

Feb 19th to Mar 25 = LBA 06:10 NBE 10:20 TCX8136 - NBE 11:20 LBA 13:45 TCX8137
Apr 1st to Apr 29 = NBE 10:10 LBA 12:35 TCX8137 - LBA 14:50 NBE 18:00 TCX8136

Hope that helps you..
 
For a charter operation, which works on really tight margins and extremely high utilisation - Thomas Cook have it really quiet this year. I can't believe there are still several gaps that could be filled. It really is too late now to announce summer routes as the most important part of the year for new bookings is here now. No way would they launch summer routes now and expect them to be full and operate at a profit. Perhaps there are very obvious reasons why Thomas Cook are making a huge loss?

Personally I would have liked to see Thomas Cook shifting ACE, TFS, PMI etc back on to Jet2 and then starting potentially very profitable routes to greek islands etc.
 
I'm expecting them to sit back and see how the bookings are going and add if there is potential, flights to it. Maybe a run down to IBZ on a saturday night might do them good, with Club 18-30's gang, but then this could be for PEAK summer only. On the other hand, letting the a/c come off on a saturday night after a busy week to sit on the tarmac for 10-11 hours maybe better.

PMI could get the thursday slot. Maybe. They are taking allocation on Jet2's ACE services! If they weren't they could run a 1600 service, like LS and it be back for 0200 ready for the 0530 IBZ departure. However this will probably crop up problems which are unforseen such as a delay on the ACE will delay IBZ, MAH, DLM & PMI/HUY.

This is when TCX would really do with a a/c with A319 pax count but A320 range. That would probably suit them better. I don't see ZTH going anywhere for the next few years, and just have the safer option of Spain, especially PMI.
 
i was looking today for holidays to Tunisia and they are really good prices for what you are getting, does anybody know if Tunisia is a good place to visit as i have heard bad reports on it? & also are there any other TCX destinations from LBA in the easter holidays which will be warm temp, anyone would recommend going to?
 
This is my first post and I wanted to know what aircraft Thomas Cook are using in the summer season. The reason why I ask this question is because I have heard rumours that they are leasing an aircraft from Monarch.
 
yes thomas cook are going to be useing an monarch 757 but i have herd that thay might be useing a thomas cook 757 insted and useing the monarch 757 at manchester insted
 
Thanks airbus. It's nice to hear Thomas Cook are going to be using a 757 at LBA this year. Shame it won't be based alongside the 320
 
Couldn't agree more Aviador....

Does anyone know when the based B757 will be formally announced or is it one of these 'wait until the day to find out' jobs... :search:
 

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