Vueling

[Jerry]

Would've been nice to see some frequency increases.

 

[MrFenner]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet, but VY have made AGP year round by adding Thu & Sun flights from November through to March!

Banking on the winter market now Summer 21 has been less than successful…

 

[Jerry]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet, but VY have made AGP year round by adding Thu & Sun flights from November through to March!

Banking on the winter market now Summer 21 has been less than successful…

That's good news! Thought they were going to drop it!

 

[MrFenner]

CWL-ORY seems to have been loaded onto the VY booking engine (along with other U.K. departure points) - source: SeanM

Possible glitch or a result of VYs recent acquisition of slots in ORY…?

 

[A400]

CWL-ORY seems to have been loaded onto the VY booking engine (along with other U.K. departure points) - source: SeanM

Possible glitch or a result of VYs recent acquisition of slots in ORY…?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1443552775363862529

 

[Cardiffbay]

Looks to be confirmed with 2 flights a week in Tuesdays and Saturdays starting in November.

 

[Tinkerman]

Flights will be on an A321.

 

[CM.]

Here’s the timing for the new Vueling route:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1443566575366418435

 

[Jerry]

That's really good news! Nice to see Paris back!

 

[geoff]

Yes great news, CWL is coming back slowly and with bigger planes.

 

[fly4gigs]

Great news

Never been to Orly, always CDG.

 

[fly4gigs]

Super cheap, 9.99 each way

 

[geoff]

The good thing about todays news, is that four of the former FLYBE routes have been restored by four different airlines, making CWL less reliant on one based airline.

 

[Jerry]

The good thing about todays news, is that four of the former FLYBE routes have been restored by four different airlines, making CWL less reliant on one based airline.

Yes it is good that there is less reliance on a single airline. I don't think anyone would've have thought Vueling would take on Paris. If Ryanair don't return on Barcelona hopefully Vueling might take it back on again.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I've had a look at CAA figures for Paris from CWL going back to 2011. I've only counted scheduled route passengers. I've ignored charter figures as usually these are for rugby matches.

2011 30,959 (CDG)
2012 27,100 (CDG)
2013 29,804 (CDG)
2014 1,685 (CDG) 19,240 (ORY)
2015 27,628 (CDG) 10,759 (ORY)
2016 52,823 (CDG) 229 (ORY)
2017 60,402 (CDG)
2018 75,402 (CDG)
2019 71,574 (CDG)

What the above does show is a significant demand when services are offered at decent times and at a good frequency (Flybe).

It has to be hoped that ORY will quickly see an increased frequency - perhaps next summer. 2 x weekly is not to be sniffed at in the current circumstances but history shows that CWL can support substantially more seats on the Paris route.

 

[fly4gigs]

A319/20 is a nice upgrade for the route

 

[Cardiffbay]

A319/20 is a nice upgrade for the route

Seat maps show an A321 so an even bigger upgrade.

 

[Tinkerman]

It certainly spells the beginning of “different” times ahead at Cardiff. The routes have been upgraded in terms of aircraft size, and across a range of airlines (FR on DUB, VY on ORY, T3 on BHD) which can only be a good thing in the short term.

These will just come down to whether the frequency is enough to support critical mass (ORY and DUB).

 

[TheLocalYokel]

It certainly spells the beginning of “different” times ahead at Cardiff. The routes have been upgraded in terms of aircraft size, and across a range of airlines (FR on DUB, VY on ORY, T3 on BHD) which can only be a good thing in the short term.

These will just come down to whether the frequency is enough to support critical mass (ORY and DUB).

The surprise is that it's taken so long for the shoots of recovery to appear at CWL, given that smaller airports in the southwest Britain region such as Newquay, Exeter and Bournemouth have seen services restored, started or announced at a faster rate as civil aviation begins its move out of the pandemic effects.

I'd be very surprised if we don't hear more positive announcements affecting CWL with the industry focusing more sharply on next summer.

 

[Jerry]

The surprise is that it's taken so long for the shoots of recovery to appear at CWL, given that smaller airports in the southwest Britain region such as Newquay, Exeter and Bournemouth have seen services restored, started or announced at a faster rate as civil aviation begins its move out of the pandemic effects.

I'd be very surprised if we don't hear more positive announcements affecting CWL with the industry focusing more sharply on next summer.

A lot of the destinations for those airports especially Newquay are domestic. CWL relies more on international travel so hence the slower recovery. If you look at Newquay for instance they were able to attract Easyjet and loganair who both launched a lot of destinations. Sadly southern Wales isn't considered enough of a holiday destination for the likes of say Loganair to launch routes like Newcastle or Inverness or Aberdeen. And of course there's little to no chance of Easyjet ever launching a route to Cardiff.