Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[kraktoa]

Swissport reduces its staffing by about 50% in the winter. A large number just get laid off in Oct. some return the following year in the summer, most dont. I dont know what agreements the airport has with all its business partners. I guess if the airport itself does not know what new flight routes will be in the offing in the next 3-6 months or if they know it they wont revel the commercial secrets until the very end, they cannot sign agreements or enforce it.

 

[kraktoa]

I have heard it mentioned many a time that the airport does not have any say in the flight timings and therefore cannot be blamed for buncing of landings and take offs. They mention an organisation that handles all take off and landing slots.

Any one know what this organisation is called. Usually referred to as a 3 letter acronym. And they are responsible for many airports in the Uk if not the world.

 

[Jerry]

I have heard it mentioned many a time that the airport does not have any say in the flight timings and therefore cannot be blamed for buncing of landings and take offs. They mention an organisation that handles all take off and landing slots.

Any one know what this organisation is called. Usually referred to as a 3 letter acronym. And they are responsible for many airports in the Uk if not the world.

ACL? Airport Coordination Limited?

 

[kraktoa]

Yup ACL. But i fail to understand how ACL can be blamed for the airport peaks. All the stationed aircraft leave in the morning and all return after short hauls and short turn around times. They all want to make as many journeys in as short a time as possible for max profits. ACL has no say in this.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Yup ACL. But i fail to understand how ACL can be blamed for the airport peaks. All the stationed aircraft leave in the morning and all return after short hauls and short turn around times. They all want to make as many journeys in as short a time as possible for max profits. ACL has no say in this.

As you say airlines need to get the most work out of their airport they realistically can.

You would know better than me that BRS (like most regional airports) has definite peaks and troughs between 0600 and say 0200 (in summer). Mid morning, mid afternoon and mid evening are relatively quiet. In an ideal world those times would see arrivals then departures by aircraft based elsewhere so that the load could be spread more evenly throughout the day. In summer 2013 Ryanair did do that when they reduced the BRS base but maintained the schedule using aircraft from other bases. There were a lot of arrivals/departures mid evening between 8 and 9.

 

[Jerry]

Surely though those peaks and troughs mean that there are quieter times that the airport can fill with new airlines that would never base aircraft like they have done with Wizz and WOW and potential US and ME3 carriers and other European and international airlines.

 

[ezy_brs]

Hi Local! The Berlin 'Cancellation' on the 28th was down to ACL sending the slots over at the beginning of the summer season, however EZY quite early on decided not to operate a Berlin flight that day, so there was never a berlin flight scheduled. It was that the flight was created in the Flight Info screens but never was going to operate

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Surely though those peaks and troughs mean that there are quieter times that the airport can fill with new airlines that would never base aircraft like they have done with Wizz and WOW and potential US and ME3 carriers and other European and international airlines.

As you point out, Wizz does operate into BRS during the mid evening 'trough' period on all its flights and WOW comes in during the mid morning 'trough', but the airport really needs a lot more of this to even out the peaks and troughs. It's much easier said than done though.

Hi Local! The Berlin 'Cancellation' on the 28th was down to ACL sending the slots over at the beginning of the summer season, however EZY quite early on decided not to operate a Berlin flight that day, so there was never a berlin flight scheduled. It was that the flight was created in the Flight Info screens but never was going to operate

Many thanks for the clarification.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Saturday 22 October 2016

Foggy/misty sort of morning but most aircraft seem to have landed except for three, according to the airport website arrivals page.

easyJet from Amsterdam, Edinburgh and Inverness were diverted to CWL. Presumably the fog thickened for a while around 0930 leading to these diversions. Aircraft had been landing before that and began landing again shortly afterwards. It seems the non-cat III runway 09 was the active runway.

There was fog and mist yesterday morning too but I was away and don't know if this led to any diversions.

Further to the above, it seems the aircraft from Amsterdam that should have landed at BRS at 0920 was due to fly to Paris Cdg at 0950 (vide FR24). However, the Cdg rotation was cancelled presumably because the aircraft was still at CWL although aircraft were landing again at BRS by 1100.

To a layman like me, and particularly to passengers hoping to fly to Cdg, this seems astonishing if it is indeed the reason. Unless slots at Cdg were the problem, in which case is any two-hour delay likely to lead to cancellations, I can only think the problem was either with the aircraft itself after landing at CWL or with crewing hours.

The Inverness aircraft hopped back from CWL at 1200 (FR24) and is due to operate the 1245 Palma whilst the Edinburgh aircraft is due to operate the 1035 BCN (FR24) estimating a 1445 departure.

 

[superking]

Saturday 22 October 2016

Foggy/misty sort of morning but most aircraft seem to have landed except for three, according to the airport website arrivals page.

easyJet from Amsterdam, Edinburgh and Inverness were diverted to CWL. Presumably the fog thickened for a while around 0930 leading to these diversions. Aircraft had been landing before that and began landing again shortly afterwards. It seems the non-cat III runway 09 was the active runway.

There was fog and mist yesterday morning too but I was away and don't know if this led to any diversions.

Further to the above, it seems the aircraft from Amsterdam that should have landed at BRS at 0920 was due to fly to Paris Cdg at 0950 (vide FR24). However, the Cdg rotation was cancelled presumably because the aircraft was still at CWL although aircraft were landing again at BRS by 1100.

To a layman like me, and particularly to passengers hoping to fly to Cdg, this seems astonishing if it is indeed the reason. Unless slots at Cdg were the problem, in which case is any two-hour delay likely to lead to cancellations, I can only think the problem was either with the aircraft itself after landing at CWL or with crewing hours.

The Inverness aircraft hopped back from CWL at 1200 (FR24) and is due to operate the 1245 Palma whilst the Edinburgh aircraft is due to operate the 1035 BCN (FR24) estimating a 1445 departure.

the inv departed cdf at11.59
the ams departed cdf at 12.35
the edi departed cdf at 13.00
look like they still had their pax loads as well.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Sunday 23 October 2016

Fog did for two more inbounds this morning:

Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart) from Dublin diverted to Cardiff with the BRS website departures page showing the return to DUB from BRS was cancelled.

The first inbound of the day KLM Cityhopper from Amsterdam also diverted to Cardiff although I believe it later flew across to BRS. BRS website shows the return to AMS operated from BRS.

 

[superking]

The first inbound of the day KLM Cityhopper from Amsterdam also diverted to Cardiff although I believe it later flew across to BRS. BRS website shows the return to AMS operated from BRS.

you are correct in what you say about klm operated with a delay from brs.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Inbound Diversion Sunday 23 October 2016

Looking at the BRS Twitter feed there is mention of a Ryanair flight bound for East Midlands diverting into BRS last night because of a medical emergency. No details given as to where the flight originated.

 

[superking]

I see 2 bmr planes diverted to cdf this morning,one doing the Brussel rotation.
on a plus note. the air malta doing the Exeter rotation diverted into brs about 11.00 hrs. I can only think this is weather related in Exeter.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I see 2 bmr planes diverted to cdf this morning,one doing the Brussel rotation.
on a plus note. the air malta doing the Exeter rotation diverted into brs about 11.00 hrs. I can only think this is weather related in Exeter.

Unusual for EXT that invariably has excellent weather conditions. bmi regional often diverts there from BRS so that might be why they went to CWL.

The morning Blue Islands/Flybe Jersey rotation was also cancelled according to the BRS website. Might have been problems in the CI I suppose which seem to suffer more from the weather than BRS.

 

[NOSIGWX]

3 Diversions into BRS this morning, all from Southampton due fog.
BMR E145 G-RJXR from MUC
EZE E170 G-CIXV from LBA
KLM F70 PH-KZM from AMS

 

[TheLocalYokel]

3 Diversions into BRS this morning, all from Southampton due fog.
BMR E145 G-RJXR from MUC
EZE E170 G-CIXV from LBA
KLM F70 PH-KZM from AMS

BRS doesn't usually get many diversions from SOU does it? I suppose other airports in the SOU area might also have been weather-affected.

 

[NOSIGWX]

BRS doesn't usually get many diversions from SOU does it? I suppose other airports in the SOU area might also have been weather-affected.

Bournemouth was also foggy yesterday morning & i'm guessing Bristol would be the next choice?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Monday 31 October 2016

Thick fog played havoc with BRS schedules this morning:

bmi regional BM1802 from Aberdeen due 0750 diverted to Bournemouth - return to ABZ cancelled
Aer Lingus Regional EI3280 from Dublin due 0800 diverted to Newquay - return to DUB cancelled
easyJet EZY565 from Newcastle diverted to unknown - return to NCL cancelled
easyJet EZY432 from Edinburgh due 0815 diverted to Manchester - return to EDI cancelled
easyJet EZY444 from Belfast Int due 0940 diverted to Manchester
easyJet EZY402 from Glasgow due 0950 diverted to Birmingham
Aurigny GR642 from Guernsey due 1150 operated from Exeter


In addition the following rotations were cancelled:

bmi regional to/from Hamburg (morning rotation)
bmi regional to/from Munich
bmi regional to/from Paris Cdg (evening rotation)
easyJet to/from Edinburgh (lunchtime rotation)
easyJet to/from Pisa
easyJet to/from Krakow
easyJet to/from Glasgow (late afternoon rotation)
Aer Lingus Regional from/to Cork
BlueIslands/Flybe from/to Jersey (morning rotation)

Some flights did get in during the period of diversions. By mid/late morning the fog lifted to give an almost summer-like sunny afternoon.

 

[Jerry]

Some flights did get in during the period of diversions. By mid/late morning the fog lifted to give an almost summer-like sunny afternoon

From what i've heard it may be the same in the morning. Thick fog across Southern England and Wales.