KLM

Jerry said:
Is there anyway of finding out how many % wise of passengers using KLM from Cardiff use it to fly short haul to Europe?
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Other than asking the airline or possibly CWL (I guess they might have a good idea) I don't know of any publicly available figures that would answer your query. The information might be regarded as commercially sensitive.

I take it that you don't just mean point-to-point CWL-AMS but also those who fly on to, say, Rome.

I have a vague notion that I once read that about 60% of KLM's passengers use that airline and partners to fly on from Amsterdam but that would include long-haul. That was quite a number of years ago (perhaps 10-20 years ago) and possibly related to the BRS-AMS route. If my memory isn't playing tricks things still might have changed over the ensuing years.
 
TheLocalYokel said:
I take it that you don't just mean point-to-point CWL-AMS but also those who fly on to, say, Rome.
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Yes the onward connecting traffic. The % of how many passengers use them for Europe came up elsewhere as people seem to believe that they are only used for long haul. From my own experiences on KLM flights over the years it seems a lot more people use it for Europe than many people might think.
I know Anna aero posted the figures below but they are for the UK as a whole and I don't know how representative of CWL they would be.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1191334216765706241
 
No, there's nothing publicly to distinguish onward destinations, unless the Airport or KLM release the info themselves on a press release. I can't see either disclosing the info if contacting directly, but always worth a try.
 
TOM100 said:
Hmmm - it’s a legal KL connection but we’ll see - I’d did CWLSXM with a 60 minute connection not so long ago and the bag made it ! Sorry this is thread drift
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Maybe it's more possible on the way out? I'll admit my lost bag experience with has been on return journeys.
 
Just back from my ALC flight on KL outbound and VY inbound. I had a 40 minute connection in AMS and was convinced my bag wouldn’t make it but it did ! Connections there are so easy. I think KL must be one of the only airlines left that gives you free food and drink - albeit a small piece of cake on CWL to AMS but a nice tortellini on AMS to ALC. O/B flight about 90% full and the inbound VY had 2 empty seats. I am flying via AMS later this week to AUA but with a 2 hour connection.
 
Good news that your bag made it!
Credit to KLM their onboard snacks are usually pretty good better than the sandwich Lufthansa served me on that flight for sure.
 
KLM have upgraded the 17.15 evening departure to an E190 Monday to Friday except in July and August. So that means on Tuesdays and Fridays all 3 departures will be E190s.
That means 12 of the weekly departures will be on the E190.
 
With KLM adding more E190 flights from Cardiff i decided to have a look at what capacity they'll be deploying at Cardiff on the various days during each month for the rest of winter and summer 2020.
January
Mon to Friday it's E190 and 2x E175 daily.
Saturday it's E190 and E175
Sunday it's E175 and E175
Total seats 10,088 (for the rest of the month onsale)
February
Mon to Friday it's E190 and 2x E175 daily.
Saturday it's E190 and 2x E175 (Before feb 15th it's 1x E175)
Sunday it's E175 and E175
Total seats 14,784
March
Mon to Saturday it's E190 and 2x E175 daily.
Sunday it's E175 (E190 on the 29th) and E175
On Monday 30th it's E175 and 2 E190.
On Tuesday 31st it's all 3x E190
Total seats 15,328
April
Monday, Wednesday and Thursday its E175 and 2x E190
Tuesday and Friday it's 3x E190
Saturday 3x E175
Sunday E190 and E175
Total seats 16,480
May
Monday, Wednesday and Thursday its E175 and 2x E190
Tuesday and Friday it's 3x E190
Saturday 3x E175
Sunday E190 and E175
Total seats 16,832
June
Monday, Wednesday and Thursday its E175 and 2x E190
Tuesday and Friday it's 3x E190
Saturday 3x E175
Sunday E190 and E175
Total seats 16,504
July
Monday to Saturday 3x E175s daily ( 1st, 2nd and 3rd July which were Wednesday and Thursday its E175 and 2x E190 and Friday it's 3x E190)
Sunday 2x E175
Total seats 16,536
August
Monday to Saturday 3x E175s daily (except Mon 31st its E175 and 2x E190)
Sunday 2x E175
Total seats 16,932
September
Monday it's E175 and 2x E190
Tuesday to Friday it's 3x E190 daily
Saturday 3x E175s daily
Sunday E190 and E175
Total seats 19,120
October
Monday it's E175 and 2x E190
Tuesday to Friday it's 3x E190 daily
Saturday 3x E175s daily
Sunday E190 and E175
Except the last week of October when it's
Mon to Saturday it's E190 and 2x E175 daily.
Sunday it's E175 and E175
Total seats 17,032
 
On Friday i took this photo of the Air France A318 and the KLM E175 on stand side by side. AF on stand 10 and KLM on thier usual stand 9 and it made me think how great it would be if one day that was a regular occurence and KLM wasn't Cardiffs only Skyteam airline.
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At the moment it looks like KLM will continue to operate its 20 weekly departures with the E190 continuing to operate 6 of those flights.
 
Good to know considering how important they are for many regional airports in the UK including Cardiff

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