Manchester: British Airways/British Airways Cityflyer Discussions

[Borneobob]

Nice to finally see FLR being served, but I wonder if a flight once a week will be the final schedule? Great if you want to visit Florence and Tuscany for a week, but not really serving the short break market very well, which the city in particular is most popular for. Anyway it’s a start and nice to see.

 

[User001]

One weekly Florence seems to have served BHX and BRS well enough, so while it’s not ideal, I equally can’t see it suffering either.

 

[Borneobob]

Maybe BA are targeting the week long holidays in the Tuscan countryside with these flights then, instead of the quick “okay lets get away for a few days” customers, but I do hope if the advanced bookings are good that they add a midweek flight as well.

 

[Dobbo]

There is certainly a publicly stated intention from Alex Cruz to expand BACF from the regions, so let's see where that takes us over the coming years.

 

[David_itl]

To get a midweek flight means getting the aircraft in on a Tuesday to allow for a Wednesday Florence service to allow for a decent city break as the alternate scenerio (i.e. as it currently stands) would be out on a Friday to return on the Sunday afternoon. It needs them to have faith in having a based aircraft for a longer period but maybe if they get decentish loads again next year it could happen.

 

[Dobbo]

Absolutely, the next step is a week long base and slowly building from there.

 

[Dobbo]

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/pressrelease/details/86/News-1/9026?ref=Home

Press release

 

[User001]

Strange that the press release seems to imply ALC and NCE are new next summer for MAN? Perhaps meant to be FLR and whatever appears for Sunday mornings?

 

[Dobbo]

This more clearly picks up the changes I think...

https://www.routesonline.com/news/3...ways-s18-regional-european-service-expansion/

 

[User001]

MAN-FLR now officially announced. Although, I’ll be the first to admit I didn’t see MAN-DUB coming! Fab!

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/pressrelease/details/86/2017-228/9043?ref=Home

 

[IanFarquharson]

Dublin once a week !!

 

[User001]

The MAN FLR times are as already discussed.

The MAN-DUB flights are:

BA4475 DUB 2220 MAN 2315 Friday’s
BA4474 MAN 0955 DUB 1055. Sunday’s

This will be where the 2nd based aircraft comes from. And the 3rd one goes out to.

 

[User001]

Updated timetable

Thu
BA7310 LCY 1940 MAN 2040
BA7315 MAN 2135 IBZ 0115+1
Fri
BA7316 IBZ 0155 MAN 0340
BA7317 MAN 0540 AGP 0940
BA7318 AGP 1025 MAN 1230
BA7324 MAN 1315 PMI 1700
BA7325 PMI 1755 MAN 1940
BA7313 MAN 2025 IBZ 0015
BA4475 DUB 2220 MAN 2315
Sat
BA7312 IBZ 0050 MAN 0240
BA7321 MAN 0550 ALC 0940
BA7317 MAN 0600 AGP 1000
BA7322 ALC 1025 MAN 1220
BA7314 IBZ 1045 MAN 1230
BA7318 AGP 1045 MAN 1250
BA7323 MAN 1315 NCE 1635
BA7319 MAN 1415 JMK 2015
BA7332 FLR 1710 MAN 1845**
BA7324 NCE 1720 MAN 1845
BA7331 MAN 1930 FLR 2250**
BA7315 MAN 1930 IBZ 2320
BA7320 JMK 2100 MAN 2310
Sun
BA7316 IBZ 0005 MAN 0150
BA7321 MAN 0540 ALC 0930
BA7325 MAN 0555 PMI 0940
BA4474 MAN 0955 DUB 1055 then DUB-LCY
BA7322 ALC 1025 MAN 1220
BA7326 PMI 1025 MAN 1210
BA7315 MAN 1250 IBZ 1640
BA7313 MAN 1445 IBZ 1835-then goes elsewhere.....
BA7314 IBZ 1725 MAN 1910
BA7311 MAN 1955 LCY 2055

Still space to run a flight 0600-1400 on Sunday if they wish.

That’s 32 weekly flights so far.

 

[Dobbo]

What can be reached in that slot on Sunday? I suppose it may just be slack in the system...

 

[Jerry]

What can be reached in that slot on Sunday? I suppose it may just be slack in the system...

I'd guess anywhere within 3 hours of flying time like southern Italy maybe or Faro maybe. Another possibility could be a weekly Gibraltar or Seville maybe?

 

[Comet]

I think the gap is from 1300 on Saturday and not one on Sunday.

There are three arrivals on Saturday between 1200 and 1300 but only two subsequent departures. So it could be possible to do two return flights to somewhere within a duration of say six to seven hours.

 

[User001]

There is. The gap from 1310 sat until 0900 on Sunday. But I have assumed that the aircraft in question does the same as last year and acts as a spare back up aircraft for the network.

The gap I refer to is from the fully used 2nd aircraft. This arrives 2310 on Sat from JMK but then doesn’t depart until 1445 to IbBZ on Sunday. We can assume that said aircraft would start its day at 0540-0600 as usual, and need to be back at MAN by 1400, so, in those 7 hours could do a NCE/LIN (LIN is served from STN 2 weekly so in the remit), or if they push the departure to say, 0450,they could do a FAO.

 

[Comet]

There are three departures Sunday morning

0540 ALC Gets back 1220
0555 PMI Gets back 1210
0955 DUB NOT TO RETURN

the 1220 or 1210 arrival then goes to IBZ at 1445 not to return. Therefore I can't see the Sunday gap

 

[User001]

I’ve put the ALC in by accident I think, not sure how as there is no Sunday ALC? Unless I’ve seen it on chroma?

 

[Comet]

Ok. I was basing by comments on your timings above. If the Sunday ALC doesn't run then there is as you say a gap there.