Birmingham: Airport Infrastructure, Construction & Developments

[Ray Finkle]

It does look rather shabby and needs a re-clad to brighten it up, hopefully something will be done once the masterplan is published.

Flatten it and build another pier similar to the one we have now but slightly longer. Then build a brand new terminal to the south where the car park now is.

If only money were no object eh?

 

[Brum X]

Flatten it and build another pier similar to the one we have now but slightly longer. Then build a brand new terminal to the south where the car park now is.

If only money were no object eh?

Simples Ray.
Send your proposals to Mr K, im sure he will listen. 👍

 

[juliet-fox-9]

Then build a brand new terminal to the south where the car park now is.

Hasn't that actually been mentioned as a possibility for the future?

Anyway with regard to the reshuffling this will probably have mixed results as more passengers will have to be bussed to remote stands, but Ryanair previously said any future BHX expansion would depend on available space and I'm hoping this will influence any future plans from them.

This is also likely to give Jet2 more room to add aircraft in S18 🙂

 

[thunderchild]

Nice to see a bit of variety at the old Eurohub - that poor BA CityFlyer is going to be ever so confused!!!

 

[58terminus]

I boarded from the old 2 last summer on a busy Friday morning and it was a pleasure to wait there in relative peace
after the crowds and bustle of the shopping mall. A short walk along the corridor and it was like you were flying from a different (quieter) airport.

 

[Coathanger16]

I boarded from the old 2 last summer on a busy Friday morning and it was a pleasure to wait there in relative peace
after the crowds and bustle of the shopping mall. A short walk along the corridor and it was like you were flying from a different (quieter) airport.

I've had similar experiences. Flew from T2 summer before last, we were the only people in the bar area. Back in the main T1, the bar war full. Much more pleasant. Seems a lot of people don't even realise that T1 is there until they go for their flight!

 

[Ray Finkle]

Hasn't that actually been mentioned as a possibility for the future?

I believe it was part of the 'beyond 2030' master plan. I guess it really depends on how close to reality a move across the M42 is. If it's a genuine reality they may well decide to spend as little as possible on the current site.

but Ryanair previously said any future BHX expansion would depend on available space and I'm hoping this will influence any future plans from them.

I thought the same thing and Kenny Jacobs words now make sense.

It does make you wonder what the future now holds for Norwegian, Vueling and Wizz and potential growth. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Norwegian were gone from October (for winter at least). Vueling I guess could go either way, Birmingham is seeing growth this year but they've cut two UK airports and MAN-AMS is now no longer bookable direct, what are their future plans for the UK? I'm quite disappointed that we've not managed to get anything new from Wizz, they did say that there would be a slow down in UK growth and that may now focus on London?

It potentially bodes well for Jet2 though if airlines are being moved to accommodate them 👍

 

[Ray Finkle]

It looks as if Mr Kehoe will be at MIPIM on the 15th, hopefully a preview of the master plan?

Paul Kehoe
Chief Executive, Birmingham Airport
Birmingham Airport Chief Executive, Paul Kehoe, will provide an overview of Birmingham Airport and its vision for future growth, which maximises HS2.

http://midlandsukmipim.com/events/b...&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Twitter

 

[thunderchild]

It does make you wonder what the future now holds for Norwegian, Vueling and Wizz and potential growth. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Norwegian were gone from October (for winter at least). Vueling I guess could go either way, Birmingham is seeing growth this year but they've cut two UK airports and MAN-AMS is now no longer bookable direct, what are their future plans for the UK? I'm quite disappointed that we've not managed to get anything new from Wizz, they did say that there would be a slow down in UK growth and that may now focus on London?

It potentially bodes well for Jet2 though if airlines are being moved to accommodate them 👍

I've given up trying to predict what Vueling might do next - all the rumours circulating them never seem to come to fruition and then they throw out a curveball like BHX-ORY. As it stands BHX is second to LGW now for number of destinations and with no cuts (as yet) I'm hopeful that they'll continue to grow. From what I recall BCN-LBA/NCL were supposedly added to build up brand awareness in the north for a possible MAN base. Whether this is true or not I don't know but if so I wonder if they are having a change of statergy? Like I say there next move is anyone's guess.

 

[Ray Finkle]

From what I recall BCN-LBA/NCL were supposedly added to build up brand awareness in the north for a possible MAN base.

Yeah I read that to but find it very hard to believe. It's not cheap to open up new routes to new airports and to think that they'd spend that kind of money, at not just one airport but two, to try and build brand awareness in a totally different city doesn't sit with me. Are we to believe that people from Leeds are now thinking 'ah well I'll have to use Vueling from MAN now'? Nope they'll still be using LBA to Barcelona just on Jet2 or Monarch.

A huge advertising campaign would have had a much better effect.

 

[Ray Finkle]

After Mr Kehoe's comments about how to utilise the existing airport site to it's full potential it appears as if Mayoral candidate favourite Andy Street is against a second runway branding it a 'vanity project'.

But his Conservative opponent Andy Street hit back, describing the plan as “a vanity project” - because the airport, in Solihull, could handle twice as many passengers even without a new runway.

He said a second runway meant “spending tens of millions of pounds and wasting land necessary for employment and housing, while putting residents through major disruption.

His opponent Mr Smith however says that he "won't accept no for an answer when it comes to expanding our airport and that means commitment to a new runway."

And he pledged: “If I am elected West Midlands Mayor, I won’t accept no for an answer on expanding our airport. And that means nothing short of a commitment to a second runway.”

The full article is an interesting read.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/west-midlands-mayor-candidates-disagree-12775140

 

[JF57]

After Mr Kehoe's comments about how to utilise the existing airport site to it's full potential it appears as if Mayoral candidate favourite Andy Street is against a second runway branding it a 'vanity project'.

But his Conservative opponent Andy Street hit back, describing the plan as “a vanity project” - because the airport, in Solihull, could handle twice as many passengers even without a new runway.

He said a second runway meant “spending tens of millions of pounds and wasting land necessary for employment and housing, while putting residents through major disruption.

His opponent Mr Smith however says that he "won't accept no for an answer when it comes to expanding our airport and that means commitment to a new runway."

And he pledged: “If I am elected West Midlands Mayor, I won’t accept no for an answer on expanding our airport. And that means nothing short of a commitment to a second runway.”

The full article is an interesting read.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/west-midlands-mayor-candidates-disagree-12775140

I suppose it makes sense to get the most out of the one runway just as LGW does before considering building a second one.

Unless something drastic is done with the terminal buildings a second runway would result in runway capacity well in excess of terminal capacity.

 

[Coathanger16]

As has been said, Gatwick proves that BHX can handle much more passengers on its single runway (assuming the terminal capacity is expanded as well).

Only problem with saying no to a second runway now is where do you put one if BHX does need it. With the UK Central plans progressing, there won't be room for a second runway over at the HS2 interchange once UKC is underway.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Only problem with saying no to a second runway now is where do you put one if BHX does need it. With the UK Central plans progressing, there won't be room for a second runway over at the HS2 interchange once UKC is underway.

That is my concern, what happens if/when we do need another runway in the future? If we think that BHX is hemmed in now it'll be so much worse once Arden Cross and all of the HS2 developments are done?

I hope that we have a bit of foresight in this one.

 

[Ray Finkle]

It seems as if we've had a design change for the proposed hotel on Concorde Road.

I can't seem to copy the drawings on to here so click the links below to see the designs

http://publicaccess.solihull.gov.uk...f/PL_2017_00207_DIS-WEST_ELEVATION-617278.pdf

http://publicaccess.solihull.gov.uk..._00207_DIS-NORTH___SOUTH_ELEVATION-617279.pdf

Anybody fancy having a guess at the operator based on the info below? Indian Terra Cotta and Pearl Yellow, Marriott maybe? There are pictures on the link.

Design Philosophy. The Hotel will be ‘branded’ and the materials selected reflect the brands colour scheme. The site has a gradual fall from south to north. To accommodate this fall the building is set on a blue brick plinth. The main entrance elevation has a dominant entrance canopy that is clad with ‘Pearl Yellow’ rainscreen cladding that contrasts with the main ‘brand’ colour that is represented by the ‘Indian Terra Cotta rainscreen cladding that frames the curtain walling glazing. Clear glazing is provided to the vision windows with ‘look-a-like’ glazing to the areas that are situated in front of solid walls. The roof is finished in a pressed metal trim PPC Mid-grey. The main elevation fronting Concorde Road continues the theme with ‘Pearl Yellow’ rainscreen cladding to the single storey element at ground floor level and the ‘Indian Terra Cotta rainscreen cladding that frames the curtain walling glazing to the upper floors. The‘Pearl Yellow’ rainscreen cladding extends up the lift shaft wall to give a vertical emphasis to the building, terminating at roof top level with the plant room that is clad with flat insulated cladding panels colour to match the cladding.

http://publicaccess.solihull.gov.uk...-MATERIALS_FOR_CONDITIONS_APPROVAL-617281.pdf

This hotel is expected to begin construction 'within the next few months'.

 

[juliet-fox-9]

Here it is:

 

[Brum X]

Looks nice, any idea of the operator ?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Looks nice, any idea of the operator ?

There is an amended planning app on the SMBC site and the colours have changed to reflect the brand. The cladding is to be 'Pearl Yellow' and 'Indian Terra Cotta', what hotel chain has those colours?

Design Philosophy. The Hotel will be ‘branded’ and the materials selected reflect the brands colour scheme.

 

[58terminus]

The cladding is to be 'Pearl Yellow' and 'Indian Terra Cotta', what hotel chain has those colours?

One being advised by Dulux by the sound of it.

 

[IanFarquharson]

PK did tell us at The BHX Forum, there was a Radison Blu but I thing that may go behind the Monarch hanger ?