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[TheLocalYokel]

Was curious to see how well the Cancun and Sanford flights started off. I believe there were no return flights for the first departures as it started in May? If i'm wrong i'll correct it.
Cancun 1740 average pax 248 LF 82%.
Sanford 1815 average pax 259 LF 86%.
Seems to have gotten off the a good start!

Yes, the flights did commence on the 6 and 7 May respectively and there were no return working for those flights.

The inbound flights on the following weekend would probably have been not as full as subsequent inbounds because many people would have gone for a fortnight. The same sort of thing will happen with the re-started routes this weekend. We were told at the time by those at BRS who would know that the early flights in May departed either full or with an odd seat or two spare.

The TOM B787-8s have 288 seats I think.

That would make the load factors slightly higher - 86% and 90% respectively.

 

[Jerry]

Yes, the flights did commence on the 6 and 7 May respectively and there were no return working for those flights.

The inbound flights on the following weekend would probably have been not as full as subsequent inbounds because many people would have gone for a fortnight. The same sort of thing will happen with the re-started routes this weekend. We were told at the time by those at BRS who would know that the early flights in May departed either full or with an odd seat or two spare.

The TOM B787-8s have 288 seats I think.

That would make the load factors slightly higher - 86% and 90% respectively.

The TOM 788 have 300 seats 47 Premium Economy and 253 Economy (source Wikipedia). It still good average load factors and like you said some flights would be more fuller than others. Its a good start.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The TOM 788 have 300 seats 47 Premium Economy and 253 Economy (source Wikipedia). It still good average load factors and like you said some flights would be more fuller than others. Its a good start.

I took it from Seat Guru which shows 288 seats - 47 premium and 241 standard. Another site - Airline Update - shows the same.

 

[superking]

With the 2 routes operated from brs this week end I thought they brought back Glasgow pax to Glasgow that were at the resorts,as the Glasgow rotations were flown instead of brs and destinations were same day as brs. They flew Glasgow instead of BRS, the school summer holidays were earlier than the ones in England. The same thing happened when the brs flights operated the last time tui had a series of flights.

 

[Severn]

Summary of TOM Routes - Summer 2018 (repost with edits)
Since I posted this last, TOM has swapped SSH for HRG in Summer 18, removed FNC and added VRN & JSI

I've compared a week in August 2018 to the same week in 2017 of Thomson Airways schedule from BRS:

Number of routes operating per week:
2017: 33

Shorthaul: 31
Longhaul: 2​

2018: 37 (+4)

Shorthaul: 34 (+3)
Longhaul: 3 (+1)​

Number of flights per week:
2017: 53

Operated by TOM: 47
Operated by other airlines: 6​

2018: 61 (+8)

Operated by TOM: 49 (+2)
Operated by other airlines: 12 (+6)
​

Number of aircraft based:
2017: 3 - (2x B752, 1x B738) (plus B788 based 2 days per week)
2018: 3 - (3x B752**) (plus B788 based 4 days per week) **someone to confirm 3x B752s?


Weekly Frequencies: ('[+]' or '[-]' represents change from 2017)

5x Weekly
Majorca (PMI)*

4x Weekly
Ibiza (IBZ)

3x Weekly
Corfu (CFU) [+1]
Zante (ZTH) [+1]

2x Weekly
Bourgas (BOJ) [+1]
Dubrovnik (DBV) [+1]
Pula (PUY)
Gran Canaria (LPA)
Heraklion (HER)
Lanzarote (ACE)*
Larnaca (LCA)
Malaga (AGP)*
Menorca (MAH)
Naples (NAP)
Paphos (PFO)
Rhodes (RHO)
Tenerife (TFS)*

1x Weekly
Punta Cana (PUJ) - (B788) [NEW] [+1]
Orlando Sanford (SFB) - (B788)
Cancun (CUN) - (B788)
Cape Verde, Sal (SID) (will operate on B788 in Summer 2018)
Alicante (ALC)
Chania (CHQ)
Hurgharda (HRG) [NEW] [+1]
Verona (VRN)* [NEW] [+1]
Faro (FAO)
Fuerteventura (FUE)
Gerona (GRO)
Kefalonia (KEF)
Kos (KGS)
Malta (MLA)*
Reus (REU)
Santorini (JTR)
Skiathos (JSI) [NEW] [+1]
Antalya (AYT)*
Bodrum (BJV)*
Dalaman (DLM)*

*Operated by other airlines
*Majorca (PMI)

2017: 1 of the 5 flights operated by other carrier
2018: 4 of the 5 flights operated by other carriers​

*Lanzarote (ACE)

2017: both flights operated by TOM
2018: 1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier​

*Malaga (AGP)

2017: both flights operated by TOM
2018: 1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier​

*Tenerife (TFS) - (1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Malta (MLA) - (flight operated by Air Malta 2017 & 2018)
*Antalya (AYT) - (flight operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Bodrum (BJV) - (flight operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Dalaman (DLM) - (flight operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Verona (VRN) - (flight operated by other carrier in 2018)


SUMMARY
These increases make BRS the 4th largest TOM base in terms of routes, and flights per week (as well as based aircraft) in both 2017 & 2018 after LGW, MAN & BHX. In the last few years TOM has grown the BRS base from a two aircraft (up until 2015) when it became a 3 aircraft base. In terms of departures per week it means that BRS has leapfrogged NCL, EMA and STN to become the 4th largest base.

 

[superking]

I'm surprised tom dropping ayt as most holiday companies are adding turkey flights.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Great summary Severn. Don't be surprised if some of the "other carriers" are EZY. Thomson Holidays are starting to sell holidays using EZY. VRN has always been operated by another carrier, it's currently Neos that operate it.
Considering the 787 will now be at BRS for 4 days instead of 2, TOM are only increasing their own flights by 1. So one the s/h aircraft will effectively be doing less flying.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Great summary Severn. Don't be surprised if some of the "other carriers" are EZY. Thomson Holidays are starting to sell holidays using EZY. VRN has always been operated by another carrier, it's currently Neos that operate it.
Considering the 787 will now be at BRS for 4 days instead of 2, TOM are only increasing their own flights by 1. So one the s/h aircraft will effectively be doing less flying.

Yes, I was going to make the same point about Neos operating on Saturdays to Verona on behalf of Thomson Lakes and Mountains. Before Neos Mistral was the carrier for TOM for a few years. bmi regional operates to VRN for Inghams.

In the past five or six years my wife and I have been to both Montreux and Lucerne with Thomson Holidays in summer and on both occasions the carrier was easyJet via Geneva with onward surface transport by rail.

 

[Marko1]

Thomson has added an Antalya service for next summer. Every Friday am.

 

[Marko1]

And they are also launching their own weekly skiathos service every tues !!

 

[Severn]

Thank you Marko1, I've updated my previous post to show the updates.
TOM will now have 61 flights per week to 37 destinations from BRS in Summer 2018!
49 of those flights are operated by TOM aircraft, with the remaining 12 operated by other airlines.
This is the schedule for Summer 2018

Mon 06 Aug 18
Bourgas - 06:00
Naples - 06:00
Menorca - 06:10
Corfu - 13:30
Hurghada - 14:25
Gran Canaria - 15:50
Ibiza - 22:30
Bodrum - 09:15 (Airline not yet decided)

Tue 07 Aug 18
Kos - 06:00
Skiathos - 06:30
Gerona - 06:35
Zante - 14:25
Santorini - 16:20
Chania - 16:30
Malta - 13:15 (Air Malta)
Palma Mallorca - 07:20 (Airline not yet decided)
Tenerife South - 12:00 (Airline not yet decided)

Wed 08 Aug 18
Fuerteventura - 06:25
Paphos - 07:00
Croatia, Pula - 07:40
Cape Verde, Sal - 12:30 (B787)
Rhodes - 14:50
Larnaca - 16:55
Ibiza - 19:10
Palma Mallorca - 10:25 (Airline not yet decided)

Thu 09 Aug 18
Ibiza - 06:00
Dubrovnik - 06:15
Corfu - 07:30
Dom. Rep., Punta Cana - 11:40 (B787)
Gran Canaria - 13:20
Heraklion - 15:00
Lanzarote - 16:30
Malaga - 10:35 (Airline not yet decided)

Fri 10 Aug 18
Corfu - 05:30
Tenerife South - 07:00
Menorca - 07:05
Florida, Sanford - 10:50 (B787)
Bulgaria, Bourgas - 14:20
Zante - 14:25
Naples - 17:25
Palma Mallorca - 11:00 (Aer Europa)
Antalya - 09:35 (Airline not yet decided)
Dalaman - 09:25 (Airline not yet decided)

Sat 11 Aug 18
Reus - 06:05
Croatia, Pula - 06:30
Alicante - 08:55
Mexico, Cancun - 10:35 (B787)
Ibiza - 13:20
Paphos - 13:35
Rhodes - 16:55
Palma Mallorca - 20:45
Palma Mallorca - 08:30 (Airline not yet decided)
Verona - 15:00 (NEOS)


Sun 12 Aug 18
Kefalonia - 06:00
Malaga - 06:05
Dubrovnik - 06:15
Larnaca - 13:40
Faro - 13:50 (W-pattern)
Zante - 14:25
Heraklion - 16:10
Lanzarote - 12:00 (Airline not yet decided)

 

[Marko1]

Thanks too Severn , the schedule is looking great isn't it. Just a thought out of the box, there is a lot of Tbas to be announced here and who knows the schedule may yet change again but I wonder if we are gearing up for aircraft no 4. Almost enough for it to do already ... just a thought tho

 

[Foxlimayankee]

With the exception of a M, W and Th, every day has at least 2 extra flights that could support a 4th aircraft. I believe it's planned to be 1x 738 and 2x 757 again. The extra could be another 738. On the M W Th that aircraft could W pattern with another Airport, as over the past year or 2 BRS have seen W patterns from Aircraft based at others airports. It's surprising how TOM and TCX are growing so well at BRS. I still have a feeling that some of these flights will be seats on EZY though.

 

[Jerry]

Or they could use another airline? Like they do with PMI and TFS at CWL.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Looking at the TBA's flight times:

Mon
BJV - BJV-BRS 0600/0815 0915/1510 BRS-BJV (BJV based a/c - likely Freebird again)

Tues
PMI - BRS-PMI 0720/1040 1140/1310 PMI-BRS (BRS Based a/c) - Seats with extra space/legroom available
TFS - TFS-BRS 0700/1100 1200/1610 BRS-TFS (TFS Based a/c) - No option for seating

Wed
PMI - PMI-BRS 0800/0925 1025/1345 BRS-PMI (PMI Based a/c) - No option for seating

Thu
AGP - AGP-BRS 0800/0935 1035/1410 BRS-AGP (AGP Based a/c) - No option for seating

Fri
PMI - PMI/BRS 0850/1010 1055/1415 (Aer Europa PMI Based a/c) - Select your seat only available

Sat
PMI - BRS-PMI 0830/1150 1300/1425 PMI BRS (BRS Based a/c) - No option for seating

Sun
ACE - ACE/BRS 0700/1100 1200/1600 BRS-BRS (ACE Based a/c) - No option for seating
Norwegian and Aer Europa have 45 min turnarounds which none of the TBA's have. Unless TOM are putting out a rough schedule before agreeing with the Airline, it could mean we can rule out D8 and AEA. The Tue PMI is showing as TBA BRS based in flights section, but is showing with EZY when booked in the holiday section. I guess as Skiathos is now available

 

[Jerry]

But if it was Norwegian or Aer Europa or Eurowings wouldn't they just operate to TOMs times as they would just be charters working for TOM.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Sorry, I meant the D8 and AEA charters that are for TOM (AEA at BRS and D8 at CWL) are 45 min turns.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Cancun and Sanford - June 2017

CAA stats show that Cancun carried 1690 passengers and Sanford 1971. Both routes took a break for four weeks beginning the weekend 24/25 June meaning that in June there were three outbounds and four inbounds.

This gives an average load of 241.4 (load factor 83.8%) for Cancun and 281.6 (97.8%) for Sanford. Slightly disappointing figure for Cancun.

Incidentally, today's flight to Cancun again went non-stop and is showing an arrival nine minutes early. Touching wood, I think that there has only been one occasion when the Cancun needed a fuel stop.

 

[superking]

Yes just the 1 fuel stop so nothing out the way with that.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Cancun

TOM644 BRS-CUN went out via MAN this morning according to FR24. I take it this was a fuel stop. If so, I make it the second time this summer that the outbound CUN has had to make an en-route fuel stop.