Flybe

[Matt995]

Ok thanks for that Jon, but summer 2018 charter flights are a long way off yet, and are always subject to change, so we will have to wait and see, guess it depends on the fleet they will have based at BHX next year, I believe it might be 12 aircraft based again!

 

[Brum X]

Alitalia earlier this month expanded codeshare partnership with flyBe, covering the latter’s selected service to/from Milan Malpensa and Verona. Approximately in effect from 07AUG17, planned codeshare routes as follow.

Alitalia operated by flyBe
Milan Malpensa – Birmingham
Milan Malpensa – Cardiff
Milan Malpensa – Hanover
Milan Malpensa – Manchester
Verona – Cardiff
Verona – Southampton

 

[jfy1999]

It looks like BHX and MAN are both losing their flights to Toulouse from the end of March

One wonders why they can't make TLS work - they previously pulled out in 2015.

Knowing Flybe, maybe they'll be back in a couple of years

 

[Brum X]

It looks like BHX and MAN are both losing their flights to Toulouse from the end of March

One wonders why they can't make TLS work - they previously pulled out in 2015.

Knowing Flybe, maybe they'll be back in a couple of years

Maybe one for BMIregional to have a look at ?

 

[Jerry]

Maybe one for BMIregional to have a look at ?

Could be more suited to them as i'd imagine Toulouse was a primarily business destination.

 

[Bhx_fifteen]

What a shame. I was expecting that, it’s appears and disappears all the time. Just come back from a lovely weekend there with Flybe and had a great time.

Back to Bristol with easyJet. One has to wonder how easyJet can make it work from a smaller airport & catchment area on a larger (A319) aircraft and Flybe can’t make it work on a 78/88 seater plane.

 

[58terminus]

One has to wonder how easyJet can make it work from a smaller airport & catchment area on a larger (A319) aircraft and Flybe can’t make it work on a 78/88 seater plane.

It's Flybe. Much as we like them we will never understand them

 

[TheLocalYokel]

What a shame. I was expecting that, it’s appears and disappears all the time. Just come back from a lovely weekend there with Flybe and had a great time.

Back to Bristol with easyJet. One has to wonder how easyJet can make it work from a smaller airport & catchment area on a larger (A319) aircraft and Flybe can’t make it work on a 78/88 seater plane.

If you mean Toulouse it's the Airbus connection that helps the Bristol route even though there is a multiple daily Airbus corporate shuttle between BRS and TLS operated inhouse by Eastern.

Bristol might be seen by some as a little West Country town but it's actually not that small (nearly 700,000 unbroken urban population) and is the centre of one of the most economically vibrant sub regions in the UK and home to a lot of well-off individuals with a propensity to fly. Barbara Cassani made that point when her airline Go chose BRS as their second base after Stansted following a Europe-wide trawl of airports. In fact, that's how easyJet came to BRS of course and the airline and airport have never looked back since.

 

[Bhx_fifteen]

If you mean Toulouse it's the Airbus connection that helps the Bristol route even though there is a multiple daily Airbus corporate shuttle between BRS and TLS operated inhouse by Eastern.

Bristol might be seen by some as a little West Country town but it's actually not that small (nearly 700,000 unbroken urban population) and is the centre of one of the most economically vibrant sub regions in the UK and home to a lot of well-off individuals with a propensity to fly. Barbara Cassani made that point when her airline Go chose BRS as their second base after Stansted following a Europe-wide trawl of airports. In fact, that's how easyJet came to BRS of course and the airline and airport have never looked back since.

By no means saying Bristol shouldnt/wouldn’t be able to sustain a route like that, just saying Birmingham - as a larger city and airport - DEFINITELY should be able to! The mind boggles. Anyway easyJet’s service from BRS-TLS has always been amazing, I’ve used it a few times, just means a trip down the M5 for me.

 

[Jon Dempsey]

If you mean Toulouse it's the Airbus connection that helps the Bristol route even though there is a multiple daily Airbus corporate shuttle between BRS and TLS operated inhouse by Eastern.

Bristol might be seen by some as a little West Country town but it's actually not that small (nearly 700,000 unbroken urban population) and is the centre of one of the most economically vibrant sub regions in the UK and home to a lot of well-off individuals with a propensity to fly. Barbara Cassani made that point when her airline Go chose BRS as their second base after Stansted following a Europe-wide trawl of airports. In fact, that's how easyJet came to BRS of course and the airline and airport have never looked back since.

I used to do a bit of work up in Clifton by the uni. A fantastic city.

 

[User001]

It looks like BHX and MAN are both losing their flights to Toulouse from the end of March

Sorry to hijack the BHX thread but is MAN confirmed as BHX is no longer bookable but MAN remains so across all platforms including the Flybe website.

 

[jfy1999]

Sorry to hijack the BHX thread but is MAN confirmed as BHX is no longer bookable but MAN remains so across all platforms including the Flybe website.

My bad, got me wires crossed reading the MAN thread on the other forum. Seems Jet2 are dropping MAN-TLS but Flybe are staying on.

 

[Jerry]

It looks like Flybe are going to charter some aircraft for the winter and next summer to capitalise on Monarchs downfall and Ryanair cancellations.
It'll be interesting to see the size of said aircraft and what ex monarch destinations they target. With the Ryanair cancellations I'd imagine they would be domestic routes.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.da...-eyes-Ryanair-cancellations-push-flights.html

 

[58terminus]

Risky.Ryanair will get over their problems.They a reputation for being nasty,unhelpful and rude.
You could add vindictive.

 

[Jerry]

Risky.Ryanair will get over their problems.They a reputation for being nasty,unhelpful and rude.
You could add vindictive.

Not neccesarily risky. If you look at the routes Ryanair dropped in the UK domestic scene it's essentially Belfast to London and Scotland to London.
With Belfast they can just increase the amount of flights they do to London City or open a new route to Southend.
With Scotland they can just do the same as well. If they launch routes to Gatwick they would have to use the E195s and they aren't free.

 

[Ray Finkle]

The rest of S18 looks to have been loaded. Nothing new but Limoges, Rennes and Toulouse have all gone. Milan and Berlin are stripped back to daily some weeks and 11 weekly others, hopefully there is still some more updating to be done.

Aberdeen 3x daily
Amsterdam 7x daily
Avignon weekly
Bastia weekly
Belfast 7x daily
Bergerac 4x weekly
Berlin 11x weekly?
Biarritz 3x weekly
Bordeaux 5x weekly
Brest weekly from June
Dusseldorf 4x daily
Edinburgh 7x daily
Glasgow 7x daily
Guernsey 2x daily
Hamburg 6x weekly
Hannover 6x weekly
Inverness daily
Isle of Man daily
Jersey 3x daily
Knock daily
La Rochelle 2x weekly
Limoges Not bookable
Lyon daily
Milan daily?
Nantes 4x weekly
Newquay daily
Paris 6x daily (3 on Air France)
Rennes Not bookable
Stuttgart 2x daily
Toulouse not bookable

 

[JF57]

The rest of S18 looks to have been loaded. Nothing new but Limoges, Rennes and Toulouse have all gone. Milan and Berlin are stripped back to daily some weeks and 11 weekly others, hopefully there is still some more updating to be done.

Aberdeen 3x daily
Amsterdam 7x daily
Avignon weekly
Bastia weekly
Belfast 7x daily
Bergerac 4x weekly
Berlin 11x weekly?
Biarritz 3x weekly
Bordeaux 5x weekly
Brest weekly from June
Dusseldorf 4x daily
Edinburgh 7x daily
Glasgow 7x daily
Guernsey 2x daily
Hamburg 6x weekly
Hannover 6x weekly
Inverness daily
Isle of Man daily
Jersey 3x daily
Knock daily
La Rochelle 2x weekly
Limoges Not bookable
Lyon daily
Milan daily?
Nantes 4x weekly
Newquay daily
Paris 6x daily (3 on Air France)
Rennes Not bookable
Stuttgart 2x daily
Toulouse not bookable

Better they trim a few flights and remain profitable. We don't want another Monarch.

 

[Ianbutty]

I agree JF.

Parts of The press spent yesterday reading out the last rites to Flybe after their profit warning and 15% slashed off their share price, comparing it to Monarch. We do love to bring organisations down when we should build them up. No doubt the venture capitalist vultures are starting to circle as a result.

Like most airlines, times are tough.

 

[Jerry]

I agree JF.

Parts of The press spent yesterday reading out the last rites to Flybe after their profit warning and 15% slashed off their share price, comparing it to Monarch. We do love to bring organisations down when we should build them up. No doubt the venture capitalist vultures are starting to circle as a result.

Like most airlines, times are tough.

A poster on prune said that part of it was down to engineering side but that it will take some short term pain on that for the long term gains they predict.

 

[nwoody2001]

Again, this will be an interesting one to monitor. We know we will be 2x a/c down on last year and it looks as if 3 routes have been axed. However, are the planes that remain being utilised better and as such, are the number of flights down? 49x weekly flights to AMS for example is an impressive number on any route, akin to a 3x daily 737/320! A quick tally looks like we could have just under 400 flights a week with BEE, which if memory serves sounds not too dissimilar to this year?

According to here:

http://www.anna.aero/2016/06/15/flybe-is-the-leading-provider-of-domestic-flights-in-the-uk/

Flybe operated circa 30,000 seats a week from BHX in summer 2016

If we have 400 departures a week in summer 18, if we take a average number of seats as 80 (with a base made up mainly with 78 seat Q400 and 88 seat E175s), then 400 flights a week and 80 seats per flight equate to 32,000 seats?!?! Does anyone have the weekly schedule capacity for 2017???

Doesn't sound too bad but ill let the number crunchers that know what they are talking about to prove me otherwise!