KLM

[Brum X]

As you say Matt, every little helps

 

[Ray Finkle]

Just had conformation of my refund for the cancelled flights. Considering how many they must have had to process I expected a few weeks at least.

Well done KLM

 

[Brum X]

Just had conformation of my refund for the cancelled flights. Considering how many they must have had to process I expected a few weeks at least.

Well done KLM

Are you going to re-book and go to AMS later in the year ?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Are you going to re-book and go to AMS later in the year ?

I think so, it's been a few years since I've been to Amsterdam and I kind of miss it.

I might go in December and take the kids to the Christmas Market.

 

[Ray Finkle]

It looks as if the lunchtime flight has been upgraded.

The KLM app shows my return flight as a 737-700 rather than the original E190.

 

[Brum X]

It looks as if the lunchtime flight has been upgraded.

The KLM app shows my return flight as a 737-700 rather than the original E190.

Cant be much difference between a 737-700 and a E190 Ray ??

 

[Ray Finkle]

Cant be much difference between a 737-700 and a E190 Ray ??

It's about an extra 32 seats each way. I'm not sure if KLM use a movable curtain for Business, if so there could be more depending on how many are booked.

Every little helps

 

[Jerry]

I'm not 100% sure but i think for business class the catering is different as well as their is a dedicated cabin crew member for the cabin so i believe it's a proper meal whereas Cityhopper is in a box i think.

 

[Ray Finkle]

China Eastern are the latest to add a codeshare joining China Southern, Delta, Etihad, Jet Airways, Xiaman Air, Aeroflot, Virgin, Kenya Airways, Air Baltic and GOL Linhas Aereas.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/3...pands-klm-european-codeshare-from-march-2019/

I just hope someone on another airline isn't late for their flight whilst AMS is being announced

 

[smithy108]

KLM doesnt feature very often but given the gloom around lost routes and cutbacks, this article is an interesting read. It covers a wide range of items but the commitment to the UK regions is key which the CEO describes as their bread and butter. At least BHX shouldnt lose KLM any time soon

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter”
Connecting regional UK airports to Amsterdam Schiphol is the “bread and butter” of KLM’s operations in the country, the airline’s CEO said this week.
At a press conference in London attended by Business Traveller, Pieter Elbers said that while KLM wants to find ways to add movements (take offs and landings) at Schiphol – which are currently constrained by regulations related to noise and emissions – doing so would not come at the expense of its connections to smaller airports.
KLM flies to 16 points in the UK, including Aberdeen, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Durham, Leeds Bradford, Manchester and Newcastle.

Full article at

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter” – Business Traveller

As the airline turns 100, KLM’s CEO discusses connectivity, fleet renewal and sustainability…

www.businesstraveller.com

 

[rollo]

KLM doesnt feature very often but given the gloom around lost routes and cutbacks, this article is an interesting read. It covers a wide range of items but the commitment to the UK regions is key which the CEO describes as their bread and butter. At least BHX shouldnt lose KLM any time soon

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter”
Connecting regional UK airports to Amsterdam Schiphol is the “bread and butter” of KLM’s operations in the country, the airline’s CEO said this week.
At a press conference in London attended by Business Traveller, Pieter Elbers said that while KLM wants to find ways to add movements (take offs and landings) at Schiphol – which are currently constrained by regulations related to noise and emissions – doing so would not come at the expense of its connections to smaller airports.
KLM flies to 16 points in the UK, including Aberdeen, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Durham, Leeds Bradford, Manchester and Newcastle.

Full article at

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter” – Business Traveller

As the airline turns 100, KLM’s CEO discusses connectivity, fleet renewal and sustainability…

www.businesstraveller.com

Flipping eck Ray when I saw a post for KLM I thought not another one what with all that's going on feared more bad news it's all getting too much and Birmingham City aren't helping, dog walking time!

 

[oriona300]

Love KLM off with them to Seattle via SFO in 11 days . AMS is so easy to transfer through i don't even bother looking at other airlines or transfer airports .

 

[TheLocalYokel]

KLM doesnt feature very often but given the gloom around lost routes and cutbacks, this article is an interesting read. It covers a wide range of items but the commitment to the UK regions is key which the CEO describes as their bread and butter. At least BHX shouldnt lose KLM any time soon

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter”
Connecting regional UK airports to Amsterdam Schiphol is the “bread and butter” of KLM’s operations in the country, the airline’s CEO said this week.
At a press conference in London attended by Business Traveller, Pieter Elbers said that while KLM wants to find ways to add movements (take offs and landings) at Schiphol – which are currently constrained by regulations related to noise and emissions – doing so would not come at the expense of its connections to smaller airports.
KLM flies to 16 points in the UK, including Aberdeen, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Durham, Leeds Bradford, Manchester and Newcastle.

Full article at

KLM’s chief Pieter Elbers says connecting UK regions is airline’s “bread and butter” – Business Traveller

As the airline turns 100, KLM’s CEO discusses connectivity, fleet renewal and sustainability…

www.businesstraveller.com

Similar post in the CWL KLM thread and I posted there that KLM are considering a carbon offset opt-out instead of the current opt-in. How long before a UK government legislates that a carbon offset charge becomes part of the fare package along with APD?

 

[JENNYJET]

Was a Carbon offset considered to be a donation? Since when has it become a charge, and soon a Tax?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Was a Carbon offset considered to be a donation? Since when has it become a charge, and soon a Tax?

At the moment carbon offset is a voluntary donation as you correctly point out, in effect an opt-in. KLM say they might consider making it an opt-out with their airline.

I then wondered about the likelihood of a future UK government making carbon offset mandatory in which case it would become a charge as part of the overall fare package, even if separately identified, as passengers would have to pay it as they do APD now.

 

[JENNYJET]

,......and once it becomes a mandatory it is then a target for manipulation with regular increments this increasing fares. Anyone else noticed the flight shaming creeping in?

Why not add a Methane charge and a human waste tax, a fully loaded A380 must become a target of one follows logic!

 

[TheLocalYokel]

,......and once it becomes a mandatory it is then a target for manipulation with regular increments this increasing fares. Anyone else noticed the flight shaming creeping in?

Why not add a Methane charge and a human waste tax, a fully loaded A380 must become a target of one follows logic!

I ought to make it abundantly clear that I'm not advocating a mandatory carbon offset charge. I'm merely suggesting that a future government might think it a good idea.

The real expert in this sort of thing is the innkeeper, Thenardier, in his Master of the House rendering in the musical Les Miserables of which the following is but a short section:

Charge 'em for the lice, extra for the mice
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice
Here a little slice, there a little cut
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut
When it comes to fixing prices
There are a lot of tricks he knows
How it all increases, all them bits and pieces
Jesus! It's amazing how it grows!

 

[JENNYJET]

Did Mr. O'Leary once suggest a toilet fee, a precursor to a Waste supplement?

 

[Jerry]

Birmingham has 2 routes in KLMs top 10 UK city pairs Bilund and Oslo.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1191334216765706241

 

[Coathanger16]

Is that each way or total? Would represent the equivalent of 2 or 1 flights per week to Oslo. Having a direct route would also likely attract passengers who currently travel via other UK airports, so 3 flights per week would probably be realistic. Come on SAS! You know you want to!