Aer Lingus

[airforced]

What have the last few posts got to do with Air Lingus?

 

[lbaspotter]

Aer Lingus Regional operated by Franchise carrier Stobart Air will nw operate a much reduced schedule this coming winter 2020/2021 season due to the on-going COVID-19 situation.

Leeds/Bradford – Belfast City will operate 9x weekly all winter from October 25tn to March 27th (1x daily Mon-Wed, Sat-Sun & 2x daily Thu-Fri)
Leeds/Bradford – Dublin will operate up to 13x weekly with flights hopefully re-commencing from January 21st 2021 up until to March 27th (2x daily Mon-Fri, Sun & 1x daily Sat)

All flights are currently planned to be operated by the airlines ATR72-600 aircraft as follows.

Mondays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 25-Mar 22
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 26-Mar 22
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 25-Mar 22
Tuesdays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 26-Mar 23
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 27-Mar 23
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 26-Mar 23
Wednesdays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 27-Mar 24
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 28-Mar 24
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 27-Mar 24
Thursdays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 21-Mar 25
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 29-Mar 25
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 21-Mar 25
EI3678 = BHD 18:20 – LBA 19:30 / EI3679 = LBA 20:00 – BHD 21:15 = Oct 29-Dec 17 & Jan 7-Mar 25
Fridays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 22-Mar 26
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 30-Dec 18 & Jan 01-Mar 26
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 22-Mar 26
EI3678 = BHD 18:20 – LBA 19:30 / EI3679 = LBA 20:00 – BHD 21:15 = Oct 30-Dec 18 & Jan 01-Mar 26
Saturdays
EI3390 = DUB 06:50 – LBA 08:00 / EI3391 = LBA 08:25 – DUB 09:35 = Jan 23-Mar 27
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 – LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 – BHD 12:45 = Oct 31-Mar 27
Sundays
EI3390 = DUB 07:00 – LBA 08:15 / EI3391 = LBA 08:45 – DUB 10:05 = Jan 24-Mar 21
EI3394 = DUB 17:25 – LBA 18:35 / EI3396 = LBA 19:00 – DUB 20:20 = Jan 24-Mar 21
EI3678 = BHD 18:20 – LBA 19:30 / EI3679 = LBA 20:00 – BHD 21:15 = Oct 25-Mar 21

 

[Wardair166]

Just about to depart on the EI3679 to BHD. Total 34 pax. First ever ATR 72 experience.

 

[lbaspotter]

Aer Lingus Regional (Operated by Stobart Air) are reducing the frequency of the Leeds-Bradford - Belfast City route from the current 10x weekly down to 6x weekly service during the England Lockdown 2 period.

Flights will operate as follows.

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays
EI3670 = BHD 10:00 - LBA 11:10 / EI3671 = LBA 11:40 - BHD 12:45
Sundays
EI3678 = BHD 18:20 - LBA 19:30 / EI3679 = LBA 20:00 - BHD 21:15

 

[lbaspotter]

Not confirmed but it looks like Stobart Air may have lost the Aer Lingus contract which was out for retender.

McCarthy clinches contract for Aer Lingus Regional

Dublin Aerospace founder Conor McCarthy is understood to have clinched the contract to operate the Aer Lingus Regional service from 2023.

m.independent.ie

So as from 2023 the contract to run both the Leeds/Bradford - Dublin & Belfast City flight will be operated by the new Dublin based "Emreald Airlines" which has been set up by the ex boss of Aer Lingus commuter and current Ower of Dublin Aerospace.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Could Aer Lingus not set up regional airline? Rather then contracting it out. Or more importantly could we not get more mainline aircraft?

 

[White Heather]

Could Aer Lingus not set up regional airline? Rather then contracting it out. Or more importantly could we not get more mainline aircraft?

It's reported that Aer Lingus want to set up a UK operation to use A321 aircraft direct to the USA and no surprise, they will go from MAN, which begs the question 'what then for their flights to the USA from Dublin and the feeder services from the UK?' Of all those most likely to suffer from this, LBA is one of the most likely along with LPL.

It will be interesting to see what equipment Emerald use. And what Stobart do with all their ATR72s that they will no longer need. Sell them to Emerald?

Not the first airline to use this name. Remember Emerald Airlines in the early noughties and their HS748s? It was their aircraft that came close to finishing off the entire Leeds United team and management at Stansted though they were mainly a freight carrier.

 

[Scottie Dog]

It's reported that Aer Lingus want to set up a UK operation to use A321 aircraft direct to the USA and no surprise, they will go from MAN, which begs the question 'what then for their flights to the USA from Dublin and the feeder services from the UK?' Of all those most likely to suffer from this, LBA is one of the most likely along with LPL.

It will be interesting to see what equipment Emerald use. And what Stobart do with all their ATR72s that they will no longer need. Sell them to Emerald?

Not the first airline to use this name. Remember Emerald Airlines in the early noughties and their HS748s? It was their aircraft that came close to finishing off the entire Leeds United team and management at Stansted though they were mainly a freight carrier.

Nothing isset in stone about Manchester being the base - Edinburgh is, I understand still in with a shout. Just because slots have been obtained does not mean anything.

 

[Seasider]

All the communications I have read, say Manchester, no mention of Edinburgh. Although that does not mean they are not in with a chance.

 

[White Heather]

All the communications I have read, say Manchester, no mention of Edinburgh. Although that does not mean they are not in with a chance.

I have read several reports suggesting both!

 

[LBA4EVER]

aer lingus are not operating their full usa programme from possibly MAN, is it not just a handful of flights?

 

[Scottie Dog]

aer lingus are not operating their full usa programme from possibly MAN, is it not just a handful of flights?

If it goes ahead it will be a full programme with 3 or 4 based aircraft.

 

[Seasider]

I have read several reports suggesting both!

I must admit, I don't read Social Media, so that may explain it.

 

[White Heather]

I must admit, I don't read Social Media, so that may explain it.

Just very occasionally, they print a fact rather than nonsense. What is clear though is that Aer Lingus UK is an option EI are looking at, and it has the potential to impact on their Regional feeder services to DUB if it operates from over the hill. Makes you wonder what Emerald Airways' boss makes of it. He has just bid, and apparently won the contract to operate these flights from 2022 yet at the same time EI are planning possible ops that may undermine their profitability.

 

[Finger66]

It could just add to the appeal of the regional services, having EI throughout the itinerary. Plenty of travellers return to a different airport from which they depart. LBA could be one that suffers the most here though, unfortunately

 

[LBA4EVER]

To me it really does not make any sense what so ever, this new operation from possibly MAN will affect every other uk airport where aer lingus fly from and even a large part of their European routes as Ive seen it myself when ive flown to DUB, many Europeans use DUB as a transfer point. In the uk aer lingus might as well just fly from say Bristol or Gatwick to MAN, obviously because poor little LBA is too near to MAN we will get the chop!
My final point are these A321 aircraft they want to fly to the USA, ok there great on saving fuel but are they going to be big enough? The whole point of their widebody A330s what currently are in use is that they have far more seating, currently you fly to DUB on an ATR,A320 so all those smaller feeder flights then fill up the larger A330, it works well plenty of ATRs and a320s operating into dub to fill up the big boys, plus who wants to fly across the atlantic on a narrow body, one or two people I know say they will only fly on a twin isle for the experience and that it feels right.

 

[Jerry]

I sincerely doubt Aer lingus will launch an operation that will effect its Dublin hub operation. I'm sure the LBA route will be fine. LBA is lucky to have them imo.

 

[jason1-11]

It make perfect business sense for EI. The airline has the equipment and the crew already and could be moving to an airport with excellent potential. This is based on a catchment area of 22m, has a legacy record of excellent loads to the USA and recently lost an two airline partner to that part of the world: Thomas Cook and United.

 

[LBA4EVER]

It make perfect business sense for EI. The airline has the equipment and the crew already and could be moving to an airport with excellent potential. This is based on a catchment area of 22m, has a legacy record of excellent loads to the USA and recently lost an two airline partner to that part of the world: Thomas Cook and United.

So tell me then what EI flights will operate to the USA from DUB in the future? surely they will recommence flights to the US, will it be a case flights to the US from both DUB and MAN?

 

[jason1-11]

So tell me then what EI flights will operate to the USA from DUB in the future? surely they will recommence flights to the US, will it be a case flights to the US from both DUB and MAN?

Dublin will return to full service as and when demand dictates. This will be augmented by services from possibly 2 x unknown UK airports. The future success of the LBA feed will be dependent on pricing, timing and having a USP i.e. US pre-clearance @ Dublin.