That’s some impressive load factors on all the US carriers routes plus Qatar.
It sure is impressive. When you consider load factors appear to be greater than Aug 2019. A very positive return to travel post pandemic. Credit also to EDI management who have worked very hard to retain routes despite Sturgeon refusing to engage with the sector about a safe return to travel. The EDI CEO has never hidden his disgust and frustration that the Scot Gov deliberately harmed the airport to suit their political agenda.

Qatar must be delighted with the load factors on DOH route. It’s remarkable really. Credit to them for sticking by EDI all through the pandemic. Emirates must surely be looking at this and wondering if they made a mistake not to restart the Dubai route. I suspect they will return, possibly from Easter 2023.
 
Pre hurricane obviously but I'm intrigued as to why Orlando has the lowest load factor of all the US routes from Edinburgh. Had you asked I'd have guessed Orlando would be the highest. All really impressive though nonetheless.
 
I think the answer is that, alone amongst US routes from EDI, Orlando depends entirely on outbound demand.

As for Gulf carriers, the issue is whether EK and QR could both operate with high load factors, particularly when EK does so well out of GLA. Even when you have good numbers on a route, it is often difficult to assess how large the potential market is.

If I were EK I would focus on the proven market at GLA.
 
I think the answer is that, alone amongst US routes from EDI, Orlando depends entirely on outbound demand.

As for Gulf carriers, the issue is whether EK and QR could both operate with high load factors, particularly when EK does so well out of GLA. Even when you have good numbers on a route, it is often difficult to assess how large the potential market is.

If I were EK I would focus on the proven market at GLA.
Looking back to when EK and QR operated out of EDI at same time, load factors were all over the place. At the busy Easter period, both enjoyed LF’s around the 80%. Emirates at peak summer hovered around the 90%. This makes sense. The EK VP for UK and Europe when interviewed recently did make the comment that the route performed extremely well, particularly in the summer months. QR summer loads peaked around the 75%. Bear in mind at that time, QR were operating double daily 3 times per week. So not a bad LF. During the off peak times, both had LF’s in the 65% range.
LF’s for both at the Xmas/NY period were high. 85-90%. Should EK return, it goes without saying it would eat away at QR’s LF’s. Would it be a big enough slice of the pie for EK? IMHO, I do expect them to return. Probably at the 4-5 per week frequency to begin with. Test the water and increase if sales go well.
 
Next year delta will be adding Atlanta
If all this years flights come back that will mean there will be 11 transatlantic routes
plus Doh possible Dxb
I Am sure Mr Dewar will add to this list
 
Bloomberg reporting that EDI is being actively marketed re a possible sale. It goes without saying that GIP will sell if the price is right. Any new owner will require very deep pockets to take the airport to the next level. The current set-up and terminal building is already operating at max. Huge expenditure would be required to improve infrastructure and facilities. A +15 to 20 million pax per year requires way more than is currently in place.
 
I believe the asking price is 3 billion according to the GLA and EDI forums
On flight radar Mid afternoon the airport was looking like LHR with 10 aircraft on the taxiway at one time. For a single runway airport that is a lot plus they were others aircraft on approach
 
S23 slots. It appears that slots have been applied for another transatlantic route in 2023. The big questions is who and where to and will it definitely happen? My first thought turns to JetBlue, possibly to Boston. LAX is currently offering big financial incentives to airlines to connect LAX with certain destination. Scotland is listed as being a target destination for the airport. This would be a fantastic boost for EDI if it were to happen. Who would take a punt? The incentive has certain conditions. Minimum 3 x weekly service, running year round for at least 2 years I believe. I don’t see American Airlines biting at this opportunity. If I were to guess, it would be United. Any other predictions???
 
I believe the asking price is 3 billion according to the GLA and EDI forums
On flight radar Mid afternoon the airport was looking like LHR with 10 aircraft on the taxiway at one time. For a single runway airport that is a lot plus they were others aircraft on approach
Wow £3bn that's some price tag. Is that confirmed? I don't think London City reached that in the heart of the Canary Wharfe business district.
 
Wow £3bn that's some price tag. Is that confirmed? I don't think London City reached that in the heart of the Canary Wharfe business district.
If EDI continues to recover strongly and attracts new carriers with long haul routes, the price tag I guess will be realistic. IMHO, EDI needs another year round route to the US or the return of EK. Stable and established routes give prospective buyers confidence to invest.
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S23 slots. It appears that slots have been applied for another transatlantic route in 2023. The big questions is who and where to and will it definitely happen? My first thought turns to JetBlue, possibly to Boston. LAX is currently offering big financial incentives to airlines to connect LAX with certain destination. Scotland is listed as being a target destination for the airport. This would be a fantastic boost for EDI if it were to happen. Who would take a punt? The incentive has certain conditions. Minimum 3 x weekly service, running year round for at least 2 years I believe. I don’t see American Airlines biting at this opportunity. If I were to guess, it would be United. Any other predictions???
The assumption is that it’s likely to be another American route. Transatlantic doesn’t necessarily mean the USA. Could it be another Canadian route? AC and WS enjoyed bumper S22 season. AC from Vancouver??
 
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EDI - September 2022
Route Load Factors

Approx LF’s for the long haul routes.

Qatar

Doha - 97%

Air Canada

Toronto - 95%

West Jet

Toronto - 94%

Delta

Boston - 97%
JFK - 98%

United

Newark - 97%
Washington - 92%
Chicago (season ended early Sept) - 96%

Virgin

Orlando - 88%


Some very good stats again. Interesting to note that VS - Orlando route performed quite a bit better in September compared to August.
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Very upbeat message from EDI CEO. Made reference to new carriers coming in and a spectacular S22 international routes season. This is clearly backed-up by the very high LF’s. It’s pretty clear the airport is determined to expand the international offerings.

 
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I would be surprised if EDI were to be the first UK airport to get preclearance. I would have thought MAN would be more likely given that they will have the space and that US passenger numbers to and from there are higher than EDI, even at their currently suppressed post covid levels. EDI attracts a large percentage of US originating passengers for whom preclearance is not really needed.

My guess is that preclearance will not happen at any UK airport in the near future.
 
I would have thought Heathrow would be first out of all UK airports if they did decide to have us pre clearance
Given how many TATL routes LHR have, it would require a very large area and almost certainly re-assigning/giving up a fair chunk of one of the terminals (Prob T3). T5 is almost entirely filled with BA int and domestic flights, so can’t
see them giving up part of the terminal.
 
October 2022 Stats

Qatar carried 16,230 in October. Equals a LF of around 98%. Impressive stats once again.
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US & Canada October 2022

United

EWR - 97%
IAD - 98%

Delta

JFK - 99%

Air Canada

YYZ - 95%
 
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