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[Finger66]

Shame the airport with the most issues over noise will be retaining the noisiest aircraft.

Whilst I agree the 733s are not here for ever and the 738s are quieter. Jet2 will only have themselves to blame if other airlines can compete better from LBA by using incentives for using B7M8 and A20N for example. Could be some interesting times ahead

 

[HX3]

This is all becoming quite depressing. We’ve gone from the excitement of a new extension and the opportunities this raises. Now we are talking Jet2 potentially limited from LBA, expansion, new aircraft and new route all elsewhere, and DSA’s future hanging like a noose and featuring way too much in our conversations.

It is slightly frustrating, but still, 190 flights per week and no losses, the potential for other new operators to shake JET2 up at their home base, should all be something to discuss rather than what may, or may not happen down the road, and what may happen with a321neo’s in the future

 

[752]

Wizz operate them on 3.5 hr flights and seem to not have a problem, presume a little lighter due to probably not as much checked hold luggage but who knows.

Think again people are putting 2+2 together and making 5 when it comes to A321 ops at LBA.

Yes maybe some restrictions but clearly not impossible due to Wizz happily operating them.

 

[Statto]

This is all becoming quite depressing. We’ve gone from the excitement of a new extension and the opportunities this raises. Now we are talking Jet2 potentially limited from LBA, expansion, new aircraft and new route all elsewhere, and DSA’s future hanging like a noose and featuring way too much in our conversations.

Most of seems to be adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with an answer of 52. Meanwhile, here’s what Jet’2 CEO has actually put on record in relation to summer 26 from LBA.

Steve Heapy, chief executive at Jet2.com and Jet2holidays, said: "Our Summer 26 programme from Leeds Bradford Airport represents a huge expansion with more seats on sale, meaning holidaymakers have never had so much choice and flexibility. As well as offering customers and independent travel agents a greater selection of flights and holidays to choose from, our enormous Summer 26 programme allows them to book in advance and get a date in their diary now.

"While we may be announcing our biggest Summer 26 programme to date from Leeds Bradford Airport, we are not done yet and will be revealing even more good news about our 2026 operations from the airport very soon. Our Summer 26 programme promises to be our best yet, and we have every confidence it will be a huge success."

 

[pug]

I find it hard to believe that an a321neo/xlr or whatever a321 it is would have limitations on our runway, but yes like aviador requested id be interested myself to know, and put this query to bed.

It is not a limitation, it is how Jet2 may deem fit to deploy their airframes and therefore will be a commercial and operational decision made by them alone which determines when LBA will get them. LBA management are likely to be just as informed as the rest of us on that.

The S26 schedule is still in very early stages so a lot can and will happen between now and then, but if S26 doesn’t see 321’s at LBA then there is no need for concern. It’s going to happen at some point unless there is some unlikely extreme scenario like a move to DSA, but there are very real reasons why the 321 with LEAP1A engines isn’t best suited to certain runway directions for departures at LBA when operating like Jet2 do. Another poster explained quite well on the Jet2 thread why this is the case. It’s not anti-LBA (I would hope members realised this of me by now!) it’s just how things are at the moment - they are subject to change as with anything.

Wizz operate them on 3.5 hr flights and seem to not have a problem, presume a little lighter due to probably not as much checked hold luggage but who knows.

Think again people are putting 2+2 together and making 5 when it comes to A321 ops at LBA.

Yes maybe some restrictions but clearly not impossible due to Wizz happily operating them.

Wizz aren’t Jet2, their 321’s aren’t powered by the LEAP1A, they probably don’t even own the engines.

I assure you I have not put 2+2 together to get 5. Sorry to be blunt but it is an issue that is discussed quite openly by some away from this forum.

Caveat - see above. They will go to LBA eventually, short of some extreme scenario, as they will eventually become an all Airbus fleet. But they may not prioritise basing at LBA when the company Boeing infrastructure is LBA!!

 

[ChrisBBB]

Most of seems to be adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with an answer of 52. Meanwhile, here’s what Jet’2 CEO has actually put on record in relation to summer 26 from LBA.

Steve Heapy, chief executive at Jet2.com and Jet2holidays, said: "Our Summer 26 programme from Leeds Bradford Airport represents a huge expansion with more seats on sale, meaning holidaymakers have never had so much choice and flexibility. As well as offering customers and independent travel agents a greater selection of flights and holidays to choose from, our enormous Summer 26 programme allows them to book in advance and get a date in their diary now.

"While we may be announcing our biggest Summer 26 programme to date from Leeds Bradford Airport, we are not done yet and will be revealing even more good news about our 2026 operations from the airport very soon. Our Summer 26 programme promises to be our best yet, and we have every confidence it will be a huge success."

You’re not alone in thinking there seems to be some scaremongering going on here based on assumptions.
It seems there is a lot of groundless speculation based on potential limitations of the Airbus fleet.

 

[gulftraveller]

The issue with the A321neos will be entirely dependent on take off weights. There is no reason they could not operate to the destinations currently served from LBA (though I cannot comment on LS’s derating policy). The range of the LR/XLR is impressive, but that’s where similarities with the 757 end. I am happy to be corrected but available data suggest a full LR/XLR flying transatlantic or to Middle East would likely need in excess of about 8300 feet runway at sea level.

 

[752]

It is not a limitation, it is how Jet2 may deem fit to deploy their airframes and therefore will be a commercial and operational decision made by them alone which determines when LBA will get them. LBA management are likely to be just as informed as the rest of us on that.

The S26 schedule is still in very early stages so a lot can and will happen between now and then, but if S26 doesn’t see 321’s at LBA then there is no need for concern. It’s going to happen at some point unless there is some unlikely extreme scenario like a move to DSA, but there are very real reasons why the 321 with LEAP1A engines isn’t best suited to certain runway directions for departures at LBA when operating like Jet2 do. Another poster explained quite well on the Jet2 thread why this is the case. It’s not anti-LBA (I would hope members realised this of me by now!) it’s just how things are at the moment - they are subject to change as with anything.


Wizz aren’t Jet2, their 321’s aren’t powered by the LEAP1A, they probably don’t even own the engines.

I assure you I have not put 2+2 together to get 5. Sorry to be blunt but it is an issue that is discussed quite openly by some away from this forum.

Caveat - see above. They will go to LBA eventually, short of some extreme scenario, as they will eventually become an all Airbus fleet. But they may not prioritise basing at LBA when the company Boeing infrastructure is LBA!!

I know Wizz are not Jet2 thanks and the 2+2 comment was not aimed at anybody directly, which you seem to assume it was at you.. I literally agreed with all your points

 

[pug]

You’re not alone in thinking there seems to be some scaremongering going on here based on assumptions.
It seems there is a lot of groundless speculation based on potential limitations of the Airbus fleet.

It’s not groundless whatsoever. There are a lot of people on this forum who work for the company.

I certainly haven’t committed one way or the other, because things do change. But those company imposed limitations do have an impact on LBA ops. Whether that means LBA will be waiting longer for the 321 to appear remains to be seen. It will be considered along with everything else and perhaps the environmental/noise aspect may sway things in the airports favour. But LBA is very Boeing centric, the Airbus facility is in MAN, the new hangar development for the Airbus is in MAN. Boeing main stores is LBA and the Boeing focussed training facility is Bradford, the flight crew that make up the management team up there are nearly all Boeing at the moment.

What we do know is that 2026 will be the biggest year for Jet2 at LBA, whether that means the 321 will make an appearance is anyone’s guess, but those considerations are VERY real and I don’t see the problem voicing them on here considering the airport will be winning out with even more seats and choice than years past? It’s hardly doom and gloom, and the DSA scenario was an extreme one that as people on here should know, I out of anybody would be highly skeptical of!

 

[pug]

I know Wizz are not Jet2 thanks and the 2+2 comment was not aimed at anybody directly, which you seem to assume it was at you.. I literally agreed with all your points

It wasn’t aimed at you, just anybody reading the thread and assuming that I or others that have agreed are trying to spread nonsense doom and gloom. Not my intention so apologies if it seemed that way.

 

[752]

It’s not groundless whatsoever. There are a lot of people on this forum who work for the company.

I certainly haven’t committed one way or the other, because things do change. But those company imposed limitations do have an impact on LBA ops. Whether that means LBA will be waiting longer for the 321 to appear remains to be seen. It will be considered along with everything else and perhaps the environmental/noise aspect may sway things in the airports favour. But LBA is very Boeing centric, the Airbus facility is in MAN, the new hangar development for the Airbus is in MAN. Boeing main stores is LBA and the Boeing focussed training facility is Bradford, the flight crew that make up the management team up there are nearly all Boeing at the moment.

What we do know is that 2026 will be the biggest year for Jet2 at LBA, whether that means the 321 will make an appearance is anyone’s guess, but those considerations are VERY real and I don’t see the problem voicing them on here considering the airport will be winning out with even more seats and choice than years past? It’s hardly doom and gloom, and the DSA scenario was an extreme one that as people on here should know, I out of anybody would be highly skeptical of!

The DSA scenario isn’t worth talking about, it won’t happen. Announcement September still nothing, same old BS from the clowncillers

 

[ChrisBBB]

It’s not groundless whatsoever. There are a lot of people on this forum who work for the company.

I certainly haven’t committed one way or the other, because things do change. But those company imposed limitations do have an impact on LBA ops. Whether that means LBA will be waiting longer for the 321 to appear remains to be seen. It will be considered along with everything else and perhaps the environmental/noise aspect may sway things in the airports favour. But LBA is very Boeing centric, the Airbus facility is in MAN, the new hangar development for the Airbus is in MAN. Boeing main stores is LBA and the Boeing focussed training facility is Bradford, the flight crew that make up the management team up there are nearly all Boeing at the moment.

What we do know is that 2026 will be the biggest year for Jet2 at LBA, whether that means the 321 will make an appearance is anyone’s guess, but those considerations are VERY real and I don’t see the problem voicing them on here considering the airport will be winning out with even more seats and choice than years past? It’s hardly doom and gloom, and the DSA scenario was an extreme one that as people on here should know, I out of anybody would be highly skeptical of!

I’m not doubting your knowledge (most likely far greater than mine). But the whole conversation has gone on a tangent talking about Jet2 jumping ship to Doncaster, based solely on speculation based upon your information (and that of a couple of others).

 

[pug]

I’m not doubting your knowledge (most likely far greater than mine). But the whole conversation has gone on a tangent talking about Jet2 jumping ship to Doncaster, based solely on speculation based upon your information (and that of a couple of others).

That wasn’t the intention, so apologies if it’s caused a bit of nuisance. It’s just information that I felt some people on here might be interested in.

I am by no means the oracle, but someone with operational experience has confirmed my stance.

 

[Len Fish]

We are forgetting that as far as the fare paying passengers are concerned, just so long as the aircraft is clean, on time and with friendly crew then most couldn’t care less whether they’re on a Boeing or Airbus. In fact most probably can’t tell the difference and the fact that LBA is an all Boeing base is not going to deter them from using LBA one little bit.

 

[oldendays]

FWIW I can wait indefinitely for A321 operations from LBA. My main interest now is getting rid of the 733s once and for all. They may be bought and paid for etc., but they're also increasingly erratic and not a good reflection on Jet2 locally.

 

[lbaspotter]

What we do know is that 2026 will be the biggest year for Jet2 at LBA,

Hi @pug

I’ve not seen any evidence of it so far with this week press release and what’s on sale so far for summer 2026.
Nothing new and it’s nearly a copy and paste of summer 2025. Unless you’ve heard something internally that you not shared with us on here so far.

I agree LBA is a very Boeing centric base. I believe it will stay that way for a good few more years yet as it makes a lot of sense Flight crew & Engineering wise. The will possibly be the occasional visits of the Airbus A321NEO’s for training purposes & coving tech aircraft.

 

[Finger66]

Hi guys. Listen, remember this is a forum and everyone is allowed to air their views (excluding personal attacks of course) and we are all bound to have differing opinions. It helps with healthy debate. And personally yes the thread may have gone slightly off tangent but it was linked to Jet2. There is a long standing worry about DSA competition. LBA is thriving and DSA isn't open. Think that is all we probably need to be concerned with for now. But it doesn't stop us having an opinion

 

[Aviador]

@pug Just thinking out aloud (or whatever you wanna call it when it's online), but in the same way you can have an airline with different aircraft, isn't it possible to have an aircraft with different engines? Surely LBA based 321s could just use Rolls Royce engines? I know thats quite a simplistic way of looking at it when I know it wouldn't necessarily be as easy as that but surly it is possible?

 

[pug]

@pug Just thinking out aloud (or whatever you wanna call it when it's online), but in the same way you can have an airline with different aircraft, isn't it possible to have an aircraft with different engines? Surely LBA based 321s could just use Rolls Royce engines? I know thats quite a simplistic way of looking at it when I know it wouldn't necessarily be as easy as that but surly it is possible?

I suppose it’s entirely plausible but probably unlikely. If LBA is the only base that has issues on one particular departure then they will be more likely to just accept that performance issue when it comes to it. They might still announce that they’re going to put Airbus into LBA in 2026, but if they don’t it’s not because they don’t necessarily want to, but perhaps they don’t need to at that time when they’ve still got a large Boeing fleet to employ.

 

[LBA787]

@pug Just thinking out aloud (or whatever you wanna call it when it's online), but in the same way you can have an airline with different aircraft, isn't it possible to have an aircraft with different engines? Surely LBA based 321s could just use Rolls Royce engines? I know thats quite a simplistic way of looking at it when I know it wouldn't necessarily be as easy as that but surly it is possible?

There’s no chance they’d order a subfleet with differing engines just for LBA! The additional cost of engineering support and spares not to mention a logistical nightmare operationally come to mind right off the bat, I mean it’s self evident why all the remaining 75’s and 300’s are kept at the same bases and the ceo’s will be returned to the leesor as soon as their current leases expire.

The neo has two engine options - CFM International’s LEAP-1A or Pratt & Whitney’s PurePower PW1100G-JM geared turbofan, the latter having well publicised issues.

I am quite certain all the neo’s delivered direct from Airbus will be equipped with the LEAP-1A further enhancing Jet2’s long standing relationship with GE and Safran.