Archive Flybe at Cardiff Airport

[mathers_wales_uk]

How does this compare to the same period in 2017?

I imagine Flybe are protecting their revenue.

 

[Jerry]

How does this compare to the same period in 2017?

I imagine Flybe are protecting their revenue.

I believe Paris was daily (7 weekly), Faro did have big gaps last winter, both Milan and Munich i'm pretty sure were 3 weekly each and Belfast was 12 weekly and Glasgow was 4 weekly so no change there. So it looks like CWL will lose 11 weekly flights during that period.

 

[aviatorconcorde]

I believe Paris was daily (7 weekly), Faro did have big gaps last winter, both Milan and Munich i'm pretty sure were 3 weekly each and Belfast was 12 weekly and Glasgow was 4 weekly so no change there. So it looks like CWL will lose 11 weekly flights during that period.

Wheres that capacity going?

 

[Cardiffbay]

This all seems to happen during the peak ski season so maybe there is something to come here. Possibly they want the Qatar hype to die down before they announce anything?

 

[Jerry]

There is nothing new on the website. This is what the aircraft usage in December 2018 is.
Monday
Aircraft 1
BHD 06.20-09.00
CDG 09.30-13.05
JER 14.30-16.40
EDI 17.30-20.30

Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
MUC 12.30-17.25 not onsale from 12/1/19 to 3/2/19
BHD 17.55-20.45

Aircraft 3
EDI 06.40-09.40
MXP 10.10-15.00 not onsale from 12/1/19 to 3/2/19
DUB 15.45-18.35
GLA 19.05-22.10

Tuesday
Aircraft 1
BHD 06.20-09.00 not onsale from 15th/1/19 to 6/2/19
CDG 09.30-13.05
ORK 14.00-16.35
EDI 17.30-20.30

Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
FCO 10.35-16.30
BHD 17.55-20.55

Aircraft 3
EDI 06.40-09.40
GVA 10.30-14.55
DUB 15.45-18.35
GLA 19.05-22.10 dropped during January and returns in February

Wednesday
Aircraft 1
BHD 06.20-09.00 not onsale 15/1/19 to 6/2/19
CDG 09.30-13.05 not onsale 9/1/19 to 30/1/19
DUB 15.45-18.35

Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
MUC 10.25-15.20
BHD 17.30-20.20

Aircraft 3
EDI 06.40-09.40
GLA 10.30-13.35 dropped in January and returns in March
JER 14.30-16.40
EDI 17.30-20.30

Thursday
Aircraft 1
BHD 06.20-09.00
CDG 09.30-13.05
ORK 14.40-17.15
EDI 18.05-21.05


Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
FAO 10.35-16.30 not onsale 9/1/19 to 3/2/19
BHD 17.30-20.20

Aircraft 3
EDI 06.40-09.40
TXL 10.10-15.00
DUB 15.45-18.35
GLA 19.05-22.10

Friday
Aircraft 1
BHD 06.20-09.00
CDG 09.30-13.05
JER 14.30-16.40
EDI 17.30-20.30

Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
MUC 10.25-15.20 not onsale from 12/1/19 to 3/2/19
BHD 16.15-18.55
DUB 19.45-20.45

Aircraft 3
EDI 06.30-09.30
MXP 10.00-14.50 not onsale from 12/1/19 to 3/2/19
DUB 15.45-18.35
GLA 19.05-22.10

Saturday
Aircraft 1
CDG 08.05-11.30
BHD 12.20-15.00

Aircraft 2
DUB 07.00-09.55
EDI 10.35-13.35
CMF 14.25-19.05

Aircraft 3
FCO 06.35-12.30
GVA 13.30-17.55

Sunday
Aircraft 1
TXL 07.45-12.30
BHD 13.10-15.50
GLA 17.30-20.35

Aircraft 2
DUB 09.10-11.55
ORK 12.45-15.20
EDI 16.15-19.20

Aircraft 3
CDG 09.10-12.45
FAO 13.30-19.25 not onsale 9/1/19 to 3/2/19
DUB 19.55-22.45

 

[Jerry]

I wonder if they are trimming routes to save pilot hours so maybe they can operate more Six Nations flights as during February and March as both France and Italy are away games this year. I'd be surprised if there was a ski route or charter.

 

[aviatorconcorde]

I’d be very surprised it those gaps weren’t filled, they seem too big and too frequent. One or two here and there is understandable.

Then again, Ryanair park planes in winter if there’s no demand.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

easyJet don't utilise all their aircraft all of the time in winter. At BRS they reduce frequency in January on some routes. Even Rome, a year-round stellar performer in terms of loads, drops from daily to 4 x weekly in January.

 

[Jerry]

I’d be very surprised it those gaps weren’t filled, they seem too big and too frequent. One or two here and there is understandable.

Then again, Ryanair park planes in winter if there’s no demand.

easyJet don't utilise all their aircraft all of the time in winter. At BRS they reduce frequency in January on some routes. Even Rome, a year-round stellar performer in terms of loads, drops from daily to 4 x weekly in January.

Milan and Munich do seem to me to be slowly wound down, last January there average LF's were low they would've been low even with an E175 operating them. I'm surprised by Paris CDG and Belfast City as they seem solid performers but i'm not surprised with Glasgow as Flybe seems to chop and change it.
I do think it's disappointing as CWL needs to grow it's winter ops not cut them and it also makes me wonder what they will operate if they base a 4th aircraft in the future.

 

[superking]

The way routes are chopped I would say the 4th air frames is further away than ever.Just hope they got something else in mind to keep 3 air frames occupied.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Is not prudent for Flybe to cut back in January? It's always the weakest month for travel and the main low cost airlines certainly do so. Is CWL in isolation with these January reductions or is the airline doing something similar at other airports?

 

[Jerry]

The way routes are chopped I would say the 4th air frames is further away than ever.Just hope they got something else in mind to keep 3 air frames occupied.

Not so sure about that. It could be a seasonal aircraft in the summer and there is also the possiblity that they could take over the NCL route from Eastern the way they are going and of course if Flybe own the aircraft ie a Q400 a reduced schedule operating out of CWL might be better for that aircraft keeping a leased aircraft at another base fully occupied. Looking at the way they are operating during winter each aircraft only operates about 3 departures a day and on some days 2 rather than the 4 in the summer.

 

[Jerry]

Is not prudent for Flybe to cut back in January? It's always the weakest month for travel and the main low cost airlines certainly do so. Is CWL in isolation with these January reductions or is the airline doing something similar at other airports?

I think the problem for CWL is that on these routes CWL only has a small amount of frequencies so by chopping a 2 weekly frequencies off a route that only is 2 weekly means CWL loses that route for a month. I think for the airport it might have been better if they'd only chopped them down to 1 weekly but obviously the airline is thinking of it's profits.

 

[aviatorconcorde]

Is not prudent for Flybe to cut back in January? It's always the weakest month for travel and the main low cost airlines certainly do so. Is CWL in isolation with these January reductions or is the airline doing something similar at other airports?

I think we maybe reading a bit too much into this. January is a crap month for all airlines and No one spends or plans a holiday for January.

The only surprising thing for me is the cuts to GLA and BFS.

 

[superking]

I think we maybe reading a bit too much into this. January is a crap month for all airlines and No one spends or plans a holiday for January.

The only surprising thing for me is the cuts to GLA and BFS.

I'm thinking I seen some where that BFS was flybes best performing route out of CWL. So yes I must agree why touch the BFS route.

 

[Jerry]

The only thing i can think of is that the Belfast City loads for Tuesday and Wednesday mornings during January are extremely poor.

 

[Seasider]

I think we maybe reading a bit too much into this. January is a crap month for all airlines and No one spends or plans a holiday for January.

The only surprising thing for me is the cuts to GLA and BFS.

I regularly go south in January, it is quiet and breaks up the length of winter weather.

 

[Jerry]

Looking ahead to Tuesday and i've seen on the airports departure boards that Rome FCO and Venice have both been cancelled. Is there some sort of industrial action in Italy?

 

[Jerry]

The cancellations are due to Air traffic controllers on strike in Italy.

 

[superking]

Various workers in France striking as well so that wont help this week.