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I thought the Western Walkway was in the end deemed permitted development as long as it didn't expand capacity - I would imagine the same to be true for the Eastern Walkway?
 

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I thought the Western Walkway was in the end deemed permitted development as long as it didn't expand capacity - I would imagine the same to be true for the Eastern Walkway?
The western walkway was built as general permitted development because at the time (around the year 2007 from memory) the airport terminal floor area was at the maximum allowed by its then planning consents. This meant the western walkway could only be a conduit with basic facilities that weren't regarded as increasing the terminal floor area. The airport could have put in a fullscale planning application for a grander structure but that would have taken time and presumably the airport decided that a GDP development would suffice.

Subsequent terminal planning approvals in 2011 increased the terminal floor space area meaning the western walkway could have been revamped into something much more inviting. I've used it quite a lot and I think it serves its purpose, albeit some passengers moan about the length if they are departing or arriving at the western end.

I presume they are applying for planning permission for the eastern walkway as they want to be more flexible in its structure and what goes into it. Otherwise the other parts of the current planning application would increase the rest of the terminal to a certain floor area size (if approved) leaving the eastern walkway outside that area.
 

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I hope the new eastern walkway plans will include toilet facilites in the boarding waiting areas. Since it is not unusual to be held for 45 minutes to one hour while the aircraft arrives, is offloaded and then prepared for boarding, the lack of facilities can be an issue for some.
 

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I hope the new eastern walkway plans will include toilet facilites in the boarding waiting areas. Since it is not unusual to be held for 45 minutes to one hour while the aircraft arrives, is offloaded and then prepared for boarding, the lack of facilities can be an issue for some.
I hadn't realised there were no toilets in the waiting areas on the western walkway.

I've had another look at the planning application documents on the North Somerset Council website but there is no detail that I can discover to say whether toilets will included in the eastern walkway waiting areas. Essentially the planning application is an outline one with reserved matters for detail to be settled later, assuming the outline planning is approved which is by no means certain.
 

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I hadn't realised there were no toilets in the waiting areas on the western walkway.

I've had another look at the planning application documents on the North Somerset Council website but there is no detail that I can discover to say whether toilets will included in the eastern walkway waiting areas. Essentially the planning application is an outline one with reserved matters for detail to be settled later, assuming the outline planning is approved which is by no means certain.
There are toilets on the walkway on the upper level. It's in the waiting areas downstairs that there aren't, once you've shown your boarding pass and passports and are in the 'lounge' waiting at apron level. Flying with both Ryanair and Easyjet the gate is shown on the airside screens once it is assigned as the aircraft is on its way in, and then you are stuck in there for what can be a long wait. Usually you're in before the aircraft lands. In theory the turnaround is 25-30 minutes, but in practice it is usually longer. Even with assigned seats now, everybody still races to be first in the queue to be sure of getting space in the overhead lockers. Can't comment on other airlines but I imagine it's the same, as the displays are managed by the airport, not the airline.
 

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There are toilets on the walkway on the upper level. It's in the waiting areas downstairs that there aren't, once you've shown your boarding pass and passports and are in the 'lounge' waiting at apron level. Flying with both Ryanair and Easyjet the gate is shown on the airside screens once it is assigned as the aircraft is on its way in, and then you are stuck in there for what can be a long wait. Usually you're in before the aircraft lands. In theory the turnaround is 25-30 minutes, but in practice it is usually longer. Even with assigned seats now, everybody still races to be first in the queue to be sure of getting space in the overhead lockers. Can't comment on other airlines but I imagine it's the same, as the displays are managed by the airport, not the airline.
I've used the western walkway a lot over the years, usually with easyJet, but last December when we used TUI we had to depart through gate 15 (I think) - anyway the penultimate gate at the far end of the walkway. I suppose I wasn't aware of the lack of toilets in the gate waiting areas as thus far, fortunately for us, we've never had the need when waiting there.

I take the point you are making though, also the fact that many people try to get to the front of the boarding queue to get overhead locker space. Sometimes I wonder if Speedy Boarding is worth it. We used Ryanair from DUB a year or two ago and our package included their version of speedy boarding but there seemed to be more people in the speedy boarding queue than in the ordinary one. Anyway, I digress.

Let's hope the airport does something more passenger bladdder-friendly if they obtain planning consent for the eastern walkway.
 

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I take the point you are making though, also the fact that many people try to get to the front of the boarding queue to get overhead locker space. Sometimes I wonder if Speedy Boarding is worth it. We used Ryanair from DUB a year or two ago and our package included their version of speedy boarding but there seemed to be more people in the speedy boarding queue than in the ordinary one. Anyway, I digress.
Quite, Ryanair 'Priority' is now merely paying for the larger cabin bag.
 

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Old Terminal Building

What is the situation with the demolition of the OTB?

The road to it was blocked off before Christmas. I've driven past the front of the airport along the A38 two or three times in recent weeks (the last time today) and although there appears to be plant next to the OTB I couldn't see if any actual demolition had begun from that distance. Most if not all of the building seemed intact.

Despite this week's council decision I presume that work will still proceed on any outstanding projects that received planning consent previously.
 

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Demolition has started a few weeks ago. Most of the OTB closest to the runway is demolished.
Many thanks. It's difficult to see that from a moving vehicle on the A38.
 
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