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kraktoa

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Latest aircraft stands

I drove past the airport today on top of a double-decker bus (the U2 that gives a splendid view from the top deck of the entire airfield as it passes along the A38) and noticed that the area on which two aircraft stands were constructed last winter on the former staff car park in front of the old terminal building (OTB) seems to have reverted to a car park. There were dozens of cars parked there when I passed by.

I had heard that the OTB was to be demolished this winter to make way for further aircraft stands. Is that now going ahead given that the latest stands currently appear to be redundant?
Heard a rumour that the new stands cannot be used as they got some parking and distance between wingtip calculations totally wrong. And access for buses to drop of the passengers is also tight. Red faces?
 

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Heard a rumour that the new stands cannot be used as they got some parking and distance between wingtip calculations totally wrong. And access for buses to drop of the passengers is also tight. Red faces?
Kingshat gave a detailed explanation in #998. It seems that the airport needs more car parking space in September than in August because of the change in passenger demographics. In previous years space was utilised on the south side of the airfield but, because of changes to layout there, that space is no longer available.

Haven’t they parked aircraft on those stands though?
I've seen aircraft parked there this summer.
 

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From Oct 7th, the airport will be imposing fines of £100 to any cars stopping on the road from the A38 monument roundabout till the 10 min free drop and pickup carpark.

Using a private company to install cameras etc and collect fines.

£100 is steep. For some bizarre reason they are claiming it will reduce carbon footprint. Laughable claim as the traffic jams from increased traffic pour more carbon into the environment than any pesky driver stopping and picking up someone on the main road.
 

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From Oct 7th, the airport will be imposing fines of £100 to any cars stopping on the road from the A38 monument roundabout till the 10 min free drop and pickup carpark.

Using a private company to install cameras etc and collect fines.

£100 is steep. For some bizarre reason they are claiming it will reduce carbon footprint. Laughable claim as the traffic jams from increased traffic pour more carbon into the environment than any pesky driver stopping and picking up someone on the main road.
For a number of years there have been red lines painted on the roads alongside the kerbs in the airport with notices proclaiming that stopping on the red lines will incur a (I think) £60 charge or (I think) £40 if paid within a given time span.

I often wondered if that system was actually operational because not once have I read or heard of disgruntled drivers being caught by it. I would have expected some to have gone to the local press.

I wondered then and wonder now what will happen when a car is stationary at one of the zebra crossings within the airport where the roads have red lines and a passenger hops out with a suitcase and toddles off to the terminal. The driver had to stop to allow pedestrians to cross.
 

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Until now the road was policed by the uniformed A&S constabulary. The airport take over the role now.

Can the driver not just say he wasbroken down. Waits a few minutes. Passenger jumps out due to impending flight. Driver then starts the car saying it was always his intention to park in the drop off zones.
 

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I dropped off and picked up my daughter and son in law on the main road from the A38. Both times the police went by me and never stopped to move me on.Perhaps the airport feel that the police are not doing enough keeping road clear.The aIrport could put a little lay by both sides of the road for letting passengers to get out of cars with suit cases and let the car go. it would be only be a short time the car would be there,not every body wants to go into the drop off part of the car park,that is why you have people being dropped off on the road.Then it could be policed and if still there when people have gone from car then a fine for driver.It gives people options where to drop off. I recon £100 is rather a lot.
 

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The old terminal building demolition begins Dec 9th

Access to the building has been closed off from the main road. All fenced off. End of an era, end of the OTB
Many thanks for that, Kraktoa. It is the end of an era. What is now the airport site was used by a glider club when I was growing up living at Wrington, then Redhill in the 1950s before the city council switched their airport from Whitchurch to Lulsgate in 1957.

I wonder what BRS will be like in 60 years from now. Hopefully, some of our members will be around to find out. I certainly won't.

This presumably answers the query I raised following the very belated publication of the minutes of the ACC meeting held on 24 July in which it was said the airport had no plans to build further aircraft stands. It would seem that if the OTB is still to be demolished the stands planned for that area will still be built, with the comment in the ACC minutes meaning no further ones after that.
 

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It will be sorry to see the old terminal building go,it seems like its been there for ever.There must be memories of the old building from many people.If any body had time perhaps someone could advertise and see what comments good or bad people have.Nostalga put aside things have to progress to survive,a sign of the times.
 

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Many thanks for that, Kraktoa. It is the end of an era. What is now the airport site was used by a glider club when I was growing up living at Wrington, then Redhill in the 1950s before the city council switched their airport from Whitchurch to Lulsgate in 1957.

I wonder what BRS will be like in 60 years from now. Hopefully, some of our members will be around to find out. I certainly won't.

This presumably answers the query I raised following the very belated publication of the minutes of the ACC meeting held on 24 July in which it was said the airport had no plans to build further aircraft stands. It would seem that if the OTB is still to be demolished the stands planned for that area will still be built, with the comment in the ACC minutes meaning no further ones after that.

Speaking to a airport staff member recently, the Eastern extension or walkway is on schedule to be ready by end of summer 2020. If it is a mirror of the western walkway then there would be stands all along the walkway right up to and curving beyond the demolished OTB?
 

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Speaking to a airport staff member recently, the Eastern extension or walkway is on schedule to be ready by end of summer 2020. If it is a mirror of the western walkway then there would be stands all along the walkway right up to and curving beyond the demolished OTB?
Looking at the video there doesn't seem to be a line of nose-in parked aircraft along the eastern apron as happens with the western apron. Only one is shown parked inwards, with the rest in the middle of that part of the apron as happens now. Of course, that might be for illustrative purposes only


Who opened / cut the ribbon for that building.

Was it Princess Anne or late Princes Margaret.
According to the linked article (click on picture of airport*) below the Duchess of Kent opened the new airport at Lulsgate in 1957. Princess Anne opned the current terminal in 2000. The linked article also provides a potted history of the Lulsgate site from its wartime use almost to the present day.

* the airport has expanded a lot since the picture was taken

https://flic.kr/p/bAqi5q
 

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I think I've said this before but I remember many many years ago arranging to visit the flying school (as a spotter). The arrangement was to call from the terminal only to be told to just drive across the apron - crossing the runway at the threshold and then continue to the club. Wow, no radio just watch out for any landing traffic when at the holding point. I've never been so scarfed in my life, especially as a young(ish) driver.
 
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Many happy memories of as a lad during the summer school holidays cycling from Weston-Super-Mare to the old terminal at Bristol Airport.
In those days,late 60s there probably wasn't more than a dozen flights a day.Standing on the open viewing terrace, the highlight of the day would have been the midday Airlingus flight,sometimes a Bac 1-11 or a Boing 737-200 combi. Other than that it was mainly the Cambrian Viscounts interspersed wth a Dan Air Hs 748 or a Nord 262 (can't remember what airline that was with).Many years later went to the airport on a Sunday with my father to see the first visit of a Britannia Boing 767.The visit was arranged by the late great Les Wilson and can always remember him stood by the staff carpark barrier as we all leaving thanking us for coming. Can't help but thinking that todays Corporate management only look at the passengers that transit through the Airport as a means to an end.
The demolishing of the the old terminal is probably the end of an era in more ways than one.
 

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Many happy memories of as a lad during the summer school holidays cycling from Weston-Super-Mare to the old terminal at Bristol Airport.
In those days,late 60s there probably wasn't more than a dozen flights a day.Standing on the open viewing terrace, the highlight of the day would have been the midday Airlingus flight,sometimes a Bac 1-11 or a Boing 737-200 combi. Other than that it was mainly the Cambrian Viscounts interspersed wth a Dan Air Hs 748 or a Nord 262 (can't remember what airline that was with).Many years later went to the airport on a Sunday with my father to see the first visit of a Britannia Boing 767.The visit was arranged by the late great Les Wilson and can always remember him stood by the staff carpark barrier as we all leaving thanking us for coming. Can't help but thinking that todays Corporate management only look at the passengers that transit through the Airport as a means to an end.
The demolishing of the the old terminal is probably the end of an era in more ways than one.
You echo my sentiments expressed on this forum more than once in the recent past about the corporate nature of the airport management these days. Obviously, their duty is to do the best for their shareholders. Les would have done the same but in his way. He'd be regarded as a dinosaur in the modern corporate philosophy. He was a man of his times and had he not arrived when he did it's not fanciful to wonder if there would be a Bristol Airport now. His enthusiasm was boundless and he was also a great showman, forever putting a positive slant on what was a loss-making concern when he took over.

I don't think he would be discounting the under 2s etc in his passenger number calculations which the airport does with the result that its monthly and annual passenger numbers are always markedly down on those published by the CAA (around 100,000 some years). I don't know of any other airport that deliberately underplays its passenger numbers. Les would have been shouting from the rooftops about last August's figures when the one million mark was passed for the first time ever in a calendar month (1,009,498 terminal passengers). Because of the airport's discounting certain types of passenger their figures presumably didn't quite reach one million but for some reason they didn't publish their own figures for August.

If Les could get the airport into the news, locally or nationally, he would do so. I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea at the airport but those who value a thriving local airport for the region have much to thank him for.

I was at the airport briefly today and saw at first hand the preparations for the demolition of the OTB with a barrier blocking access to the road in front of it. The uncertainty of the airport's ability to grow beyond 10 mppa because of external factors clearly isn't holding back the owners from splashing yet more money on the airport.
 
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