Infrastructure, Construction & Developments

[Matt995]

Video from the airport re the 4 new lifts:-

Birmingham New Lifts

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Video from the airport re the 4 new lifts:-

Birmingham New Lifts

It will work great, if you only have 8 people at a time (as shown). However I think that the demand will be significantly higher than that, with queueing likely.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

It will work great, if you only have 8 people at a time (as shown). However I think that the demand will be significantly higher than that, with queueing likely.

Christmas queues

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Christmas queues

No, all year round especially at peak times.

 

[MB1]

It will work great, if you only have 8 people at a time (as shown). However I think that the demand will be significantly higher than that, with queueing likely.

With no baggage, children, pushchairs, wheelchairs!

The dwell time of those lifts is going to be significantly longer.

 

[HPsauce]

BHX need to remember that many people simply refuse to use lifts. Whether they have a phobia, claustrophobia particularly, or a fear of crowded spaces in general.
A viable alternative method will need to be installed, and not just a fire escape staircase.
Failure to address this could turn people off from using the airport.

 

[nwoody2001]

Failure to address this could turn people off from using the airport.

i highly doubt that is likely to the be case....

Reasons determining whether to use an airport:

1. Flight availability
2. Geography
3. Cost of flights
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352. Do I have to take a lift!

Whilst there are people who activity dislike lifts, I suspect their are far more people who have a fear of flying than a fear of lifts, yet they still fly!

For all the armchair airport managers we feel we are, for the purposes of Building Regulations, BHX will need to have satisfied that the lifts have the capacity to move the number of people required. The are SIX lifts moving between a single floor simultaneously!

 

[Timberwolf]

In other news, stand 8C is now closed with hoardings up and road diversions in place already. I can only assume this is for the new covered holding area they are building. I didn’t expect work on this to start so soon!

The road diversions are already causing a few long diversions for buses collecting pax at stands 12 and 13, with buses having to go all the way to north and double back on themselves as they can’t make the right turn towards gate 7. As you could imagine, pax are not best pleased, but it is what it is.

Not sure what the timeframe on this project is, but they have been doing really well with the standardised stands project. They have been completing each phase in quite a timely manner, so I would expect the same from this next phase.

The area around 8C is closed as they are basing all the portacabins and equipment there for the next phase of stand realignment.

This will see Eurohub stands 1-7 realigned to accommodate A321s this side.

The Queuing hall cow shed is only in the planning stage and I have no idea when this would be built.

 

[rollo]

With no baggage, children, pushchairs, wheelchairs!

The dwell time of those lifts is going to be significantly longer.

You forgot to mention the 16 stone pratt who rushes up as the doors are closing and presses the button to reopen them saying "room for a little one".

Anyway I have a question. It was mentioned by a member but can't remember whoin an earlier post that the existing monorail is or will be closed I'm sure in the original extention plans there was a new monorail that would be built linking the HS2,NEC, Birmingham International and the airport with the monorail terminating at the old Eurohub. Is that still the case and if so what is the means of descending down and up from check in? By the way I thought it was four lifts not six as mentioned by nwoody 2001.

Just confirm one of my previous post overall I think BHX is a pretty decent airport from a user point of view and the new security area a great improvement however extending the baggage claim, the lack of seating in non retail areas needs attention and a bit of a make over in the old Eurohub would be a good step up and yes an escalator but I've done that to death.

The airport is not a mess far from it but could be better..

 

[Timberwolf]

Anyway I have a question. It was mentioned by a member but can't remember whoin an earlier post that the existing monorail is or will be closed I'm sure in the original extention plans there was a new monorail that would be built linking the HS2,NEC, Birmingham International and the airport with the monorail terminating at the old Eurohub. Is that still the case and if so what is the means of descending down and up

The tenders have just gone out for a construction company to be picked for the new HS2-NEC-Airport monorail.
They are to build a service yard over the current car rentals car park whenever work starts on it.
That Car rental car park is to be relocated Elmdon side infront of the STS hangar.
A new road junction is already approved off the A45 to turn into this area.
A new long stay surface car park is also planned over this side to by the STS hangar.

 

[rollo]

Thank youTimberwolf good news.

 

[BhxJack]

Stands 1 to 7 are not being realigned this side of the new year as when the moved the taxiway yankee centerline amd realigned the euro hub remotes as jet2 still have aircraft on stands 1 to 3 for a good few weeks and someone at the airport has told me that 1 to 7 are not being done currently

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

I think the airport and council need to get involved in sorting out viewings areas.Ok we Have R15 which is popular.R33 no much view at all unless ur AA(You tube) and stand on a public path which he got in trouble for last week due to bylaws which he never broke at all.
We need to sort viewing locations that’s the most important thing in my area of opinion

 

[Brum X]

You'd have to pay me to go to either how they can define themselves as restaurants is beyond me.

Each to their own I suppose.

Oooooooh can't beat a nice double cheeseburger and I don't care what's in it and a Mcflurry ice cream.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I don't think the airport has any interest in viewing facilities. I'm not sure if it's true, but many years ago I heard that there is a local by-law requiring the airport to provide such facilities, but not saying what the facilities must be. Hence, the minimalist bus shelter and a few benches that are provided. Years ago, the long stay car park would be chock-a-block with families (particularly Saturdays and Sundays) spending several hours watching the planes. The current car parking prices now make this very expensive.
What by-law is Airport Action alleged to have broken?

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Believe it was one of the streams last week

I don't think the airport has any interest in viewing facilities. I'm not sure if it's true, but many years ago I heard that there is a local by-law requiring the airport to provide such facilities, but not saying what the facilities must be. Hence, the minimalist bus shelter and a few benches that are provided. Years ago, the long stay car park would be chock-a-block with families (particularly Saturdays and Sundays) spending several hours watching the planes. The current car parking prices now make this very expensive.
What by-law is Airport Action alleged to have broken?

 

[Timberwolf]

Stands 1 to 7 are not being realigned this side of the new year as when the moved the taxiway yankee centerline amd realigned the euro hub remotes as jet2 still have aircraft on stands 1 to 3 for a good few weeks and someone at the airport has told me that 1 to 7 are not being done currently

Should be completed for the start of the summer 2024 season is what i have been told.

So with the slow speed of the last phase, should just about do it if they start in the new year.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Believe it was one of the streams last week

I asked what by-law was allegedly broken, not when.

 

[Timberwolf]

I don't think the airport has any interest in viewing facilities. I'm not sure if it's true, but many years ago I heard that there is a local by-law requiring the airport to provide such facilities, but not saying what the facilities must be. Hence, the minimalist bus shelter and a few benches that are provided. Years ago, the long stay car park would be chock-a-block with families (particularly Saturdays and Sundays) spending several hours watching the planes. The current car parking prices now make this very expensive.
What by-law is Airport Action alleged to have broken?

Not just BHX.There is no proper viewing facilities inside airport boundaries at LHR,LGW ,STN,LTN either.

 

[Nethercote2019]

I think the airport and council need to get involved in sorting out viewings areas.Ok we Have R15 which is popular.R33 no much view at all unless ur AA(You tube) and stand on a public path which he got in trouble for last week due to bylaws which he never broke at all.
We need to sort viewing locations that’s the most important thing in my area of opinion

Not just BHX.There is no proper viewing facilities inside airport boundaries at LHR,LGW ,STN,LTN either.

I’m afraid… If it’s not a money earner it’s not going to happen