easyJet

[Finger66]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

 

[White Heather]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

Ha! If that were true they will have a long wait.

 

[northsouth]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

Hope not - don't forget easy has a massive operation out of the north west so could be looking at dilution hope more chance of a smallish base at LBA which is established now and they are growing it like previous

 

[YorkshireLad]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

Hope not - don't forget easy has a massive operation out of the north west so could be looking at dilution hope more chance of a smallish base at LBA which is established now and they are growing it like previous

I think Finger66's comment was extremely tongue-in-cheek

I'm with you, I think a 2-3 aircraft base is much more likely. With any luck the timings from based aircraft will be better, some flights are really suffering from poor timings which I believe has negatively impacted some loads - especially Barcelona on Wednesdays

 

[pug]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

Hope not - don't forget easy has a massive operation out of the north west so could be looking at dilution hope more chance of a smallish base at LBA which is established now and they are growing it like previous

The only ‘rumour’ I’ve heard was from Christian Foster, the ‘program director’ at FlyDoncaster who has named easyjet openly a couple of times. Whilst they could put a lot of money into DSA to carve out a market there I’m not sure they will after previous attempts at routes from there were met with very low uptake on the whole. Let’s not forget that it’s apparently going to be another two years before DSA is capable of handling passenger flights.

So whilst it’s entirely possible (and if DSA is to be successful it would need that seismic shift), the evidence of recent years would suggest that LBA is their Yorkshire focus. The purchase by AENA might mean there is a multi airport deal to be had, they do of course operate from a lot of AENA owned airports.

As for the delay in putting AGP/PMI on sale, it could be anything from a new base to just trying to determine how to fit it into the network to even deciding to redeploy the aircraft on other routes. I think we all hope it’s the former.

 

[paully]

Heard a rumour it going to be announced......................as DSA

And free MOT, while you're away, with every 2 seats sold...Bargain


I'll get me coat

 

[northsouth]

Massive risk if they decide to base at DSA historically airlines tend to go on routes that are established and have a a change to further explore and as said current market conditions are weak so I would think that LBA management will be working on this now

 

[White Heather]

Massive risk if they decide to base at DSA historically airlines tend to go on routes that are established and have a a change to further explore and as said current market conditions are weak so I would think that LBA management will be working on this now

LBA management have been working on Easyjet for the last 5 years at least, and lest we forget, LBA have directors who previously were with Easyjet and have connections. In addition, Easyjet now have bases at Luton and Newcastle. Both are linked to LBA through ownership, so an LBA base makes sense once the terminal is able to absorb the additional capacity. I can see no way Easyjet or anyone else would commit to a DSA base when in reality, nobody knows when it will even open. 2028 is probably over optimistic. Airlines need certainty, something very much lacking at DSA.

 

[Starflyer]

I may need to stand corrected on this, but don't believe you'll see a new easyJet base for 2027 anywhere. I'd go as far as to say that even 2028 may be pushing it. Do I think LBA has a chance of becoming an easyJet base in due time? Yes, possibly.

I'd be amazed if they became the anchor airline at a newly-reopened DSA. Come to think of it, I'd be amazed if any airline became the anchor airline at a newly-reopened DSA.

 

[Finger66]

The continued lack of PMI and AGP being on sale for next summer is becoming concerning. I don't doubt @Starflyer is well connected and their comments suggest the delay on releasing these routes is not going to be down to a new base being announced, unless of course deflection is the order of the day here.
My observations, without being in the know, are that with the industry going through a tough time currently, two routes that currently have probably excess capacity ex LBA can be served more profitably somewhere else.
Equally though I have been told unofficially that easyJet are happy with all loads ex LBA. However that doesn't necessarily mean they are happy with all yields.
It does remain a bit of a mystery to me does all this as things were pointing to a build up of away based routes prior to a possible/probable base, especially with the U2/LTN/NCL connections mentioned by WH that LBA has.
Would be nice to have this one put to bed once and for all sooner rather than later.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The continued lack of PMI and AGP being on sale for next summer is becoming concerning. I don't doubt @Starflyer is well connected and their comments suggest the delay on releasing these routes is not going to be down to a new base being announced, unless of course deflection is the order of the day here.
My observations, without being in the know, are that with the industry going through a tough time currently, two routes that currently have probably excess capacity ex LBA can be served more profitably somewhere else.
Equally though I have been told unofficially that easyJet are happy with all loads ex LBA. However that doesn't necessarily mean they are happy with all yields.
It does remain a bit of a mystery to me does all this as things were pointing to a build up of away based routes prior to a possible/probable base, especially with the U2/LTN/NCL connections mentioned by WH that LBA has.
Would be nice to have this one put to bed once and for all sooner rather than later.

Are AGP/PMI not served by AGP/PMI based aircraft?

If so it's probably finalising those slots out of PMI/AGP and back into AGP/PMI given they swell in passenger numbers and flights in Summer season. Also if they withdraw LBA where else they going to put them?

 

[Speedbird1]

Are AGP/PMI not served by AGP/PMI based aircraft?

If so it's probably finalising those slots out of PMI/AGP and back into AGP/PMI given they swell in passenger numbers and flights in Summer season. Also if they withdraw LBA where else they going to put them?

I think the issue is that SOU and BHD which are both operated by PMI based aircraft are both on sale through to June 2027, so this would suggest it’s not a slot issue.

Might be one for @White Heather to ask the airport to clarify in the coming weeks/months if no further news, but it’s probably still very early days for next summer.

Would be a blow to lose these routes with easyJet.

 

[Finger66]

Are AGP/PMI not served by AGP/PMI based aircraft?

If so it's probably finalising those slots out of PMI/AGP and back into AGP/PMI given they swell in passenger numbers and flights in Summer season. Also if they withdraw LBA where else they going to put them?

CDG and BCN are served by their own based aircraft so not sure it's a scheduling issue as such as why would they already be shown - presumably performing better? Anyway the one positive is U2 haven't deserted us altogether

 

[Jerry]

Also if they withdraw LBA where else they going to put them?

Anywhere in Europe. Will be a lot of competition for Easyjet flights to those destinations.

 

[Aviador]

If a US private credit fund successfully takes over easyJet, what does that mean for regional bases like LBA? Do private equity owners typically protect niche, high-yield regional routes, or will they pull back capacity to focus exclusively on mega-fortress bases like Gatwick and Luton?

 

[BCFC]

If a US private credit fund successfully takes over easyJet, what does that mean for regional bases like LBA? Do private equity owners typically protect niche, high-yield regional routes, or will they pull back capacity to focus exclusively on mega-fortress bases like Gatwick and Luton?

They just want to make as much profit as they can….if that means Easy don't make money on any route from any airport they will look to drop it.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The issue being a new route from anywhere does not instantly turn a profit.

 

[YorkshireLad]

If a US private credit fund successfully takes over easyJet, what does that mean for regional bases like LBA? Do private equity owners typically protect niche, high-yield regional routes, or will they pull back capacity to focus exclusively on mega-fortress bases like Gatwick and Luton?

To sum it up: private equity = bad
They will absolutely consolidate into Belfast, Edinburgh, Manchester, Luton, Gatwick, Paris, Berlin and any other major bases. This often ends up badly, many a bankruptcy story starts with private equity

 

[Finger66]

Wonder if this was what @Starflyer was alluding to when they said they weren't expecting a new U2 base anywhere in 27 or 28?

 

[Aviador]

Wonder if this was what @Starflyer was alluding to when they said they weren't expecting a new U2 base anywhere in 27 or 28?

It is easy to write off Leeds Bradford as an unlikely focus for easyJet, but the aviation landscape in the North is shifting rapidly. Dismissing the idea ignores three major strategic catalysts.

Right now, Jet2 and Ryanair dominate LBA. However, airlines rarely leave a highly profitable, captive market of over 5 million people in the Yorkshire catchment area unchallenged. easyJet has successfully coexisted and competed aggressively with Ryanair and Jet2 in Manchester, Liverpool, and Birmingham. Leeds is the logical next step for them to pinch market share.

Perhaps some forum members forget that easyJet already operates a successfully between Leeds and Belfast International. They did not launch this route on a whim. It allowed them to establish ground operations, test local demand, and build brand presence in Yorkshire. It is highly efficient for an airline to add routes once the baseline operational infrastructure is already active at an airport.