With aircraft type it'll be a case of wait and see. If they do shift to the ATR they might have to get more jets to operate some routes as it's a lot slower and i don't see ATRs at Heathrow for one but any sort of fleet replacement would take time so would be a while yet.It's all beginning to sound horribly to me like not only the Flybe name but also its aircraft will disappear from BHX, leaving only Stobart, with maybe an increased variety of their flights
Besides the Aer Lingus Regional flights and a Flybe flight (Isle of Man), does Stobart Air operate any other flights from BHX?It's all beginning to sound horribly to me like not only the Flybe name but also its aircraft will disappear from BHX, leaving only Stobart, with maybe an increased variety of their flights
Emirates already fly to Australia from BHX !Hi there all again, as per my previous post, as well as the Virgin brand name, let's not forget British Airways, if they can be pursuaded at all by the new boss to return, Delta, United Airlines, American Airlines, even trying to persuade Emirates to expand further from Birmingham to say Sydney, adelaide, brisbane, or even to the United States. Just to see any of these massive branded airlines on the apron and using it is a massive plus for the airport, but also a big pr stunt, which is what the airport needs to move forward.. AndyC
Though i see some consolidation i would be surprised if they were dropped as i'd imagine those routes are some of Flybe's more profitable ones plus at the moment it operates CDG in concert with Air France and there may well be union resistance at KLM for the same thing to happen with them as i believe they are limited who they can codeshare with.The routes to Paris CDG and Amsterdam will almost certainly be dropped, so the slots can by used by Air France and KLM (Virgin/Delta partners) for more profitable/transatlantic routes.
The 3rd runway is a while away and with Heathrow they will be limited in what they can do by Delta as i'd imagine they would be wary of diverting traffic away from AMS and CDG and may wish to concentrate on more point 2 point premium traffic out of Heathrow.Is this sale to Virgin just a way for them to get more slots at Heathrow when the 3rd runways opens? Will we really see Virgin flying loss making domestic UK services in years to come?
That may well be the reason for them putting there name to Flybe to increase their brand awareness across Europe.Virgin is a well known name in the UK, but does Germany, France, Italy, and the rest of Europe etc. really know the brand, they don't fly to these countries, maybe the brand Flybe is actually better known in Europe, and the rebrand to Virgin maybe a huge gamble?
I guess he'll earn his pay then! As for Virgin they may well look at BHX and operate it as a point to point focus city though they won't be the only ones invloved in the decision making.The new CEO will really have his work cut out to find replacements, he will first need to convince Virgin that the current Flybe routes will be successful, forget British Airways, our only hope is Ryanair, Wizz or Easyjet if Virgin do prune the Flybe routes out of Brum.
The busiest routes out of both Glasgow and Edinburgh is Heathrow, so whilst there are direct TATL routes from those airports, in 2017 just over 2 millions passengers flew from GLA/EDI to LHR the majority of which were probably connecting onto other flights.Glasgow and Edinburgh? why again when there are transtlantic routes already from those two cities
Similar to the above, the busiest routes from Belfast City and Belfast International were Heathrow and Gatwick respectively. Whilst some of these were likely people visiting London (unlike Glasgow/Edinburgh there's no rail link), a large amount were still probably on connecting flights.Belfast?, again i cannot see the logic when it would be quicker to take advantage of pre-clearance to fly via Dublin
If that's the case, why do airlines such as KLM and Qatar fly there?CWL?, again doubtful when there is a fast and frequent rail service to LHR
I think if you look at Delta's opposition on trans atlantic routes IAG has not only Heathrow and Madrid but also Dublin so they may well feel in the long term building MAN up as a hub to counter Dublin is a viable strategy but that doesn't neccesarily mean they dump all the other routes that Flybe operate and BHX could easily be a short haul focus city on point 2 point and the same with SOU, EXT, CWL, EDI and BHD and a lot of that will be either north to south and to the near continent and Ireland.A large part of the aviation industry is competition, and various airlines trying to attract passengers to use their services over other airlines. Delta/Virgin will be looking to expand their TATL offering to try and lure passengers away from, in the main BA/AA, but also United, Lufthansa, Aer Lingus, etc. Due to LHR being at full capacity meaning Delta/Virgin can't grow much there, turning MAN into a 'focus' city for TATL operations doesn't seem so far fetched.