Vueling

[Jerry]

Unfortunately I missed it but Vueling used an A321 on today's Malaga! I believe it was filling in for a tech aircraft.View attachment 13392

 

[Cardiffbay]

Yea today’s flight returned to Malaga once it was airborne.

 

[Jerry]

According to the Vueling app Malaga is a bit odd for winter 2019/20.
The CWL-AGP sector won't operate between 1/12/19 and 20/12/19 and then during February.
The AGP-CWL sector won't operate in the last week of November and between 8/1/20 and 31/1/20.
Looks like work in progress.

 

[Sean123]

Don't know if I've missed it but is next year's pmi schedule out yet, only ask as we're looking to book late May early June, not sure when they're typically available to book?

 

[Jerry]

Don't know if I've missed it but is next year's pmi schedule out yet, only ask as we're looking to book late May early June, not sure when they're typically available to book?

No it isn't out yet.

 

[Sean123]

Ah ok cheers jerry

 

[Jerry]

There is some concern elsewhere that Vueling won't be returning on Malaga and PMI because neither are onsale yet i believe for Summer 2020. Many feel that this is the effect of Ryanair operating on AGP and that CWL isn't a big enough airport for 2 LCCs operating on the same route/routes. If i remember correctly then the rest of their summer schedule goes onsale in September so we'll know then if Vueling have dropped those routes, 1 of which they have no competition from a LCC.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

There is some concern elsewhere that Vueling won't be returning on Malaga and PMI because neither are onsale yet i believe for Summer 2020. Many feel that this is the effect of Ryanair operating on AGP and that CWL isn't a big enough airport for 2 LCCs operating on the same route/routes. If i remember correctly then the rest of their summer schedule goes onsale in September so we'll know then if Vueling have dropped those routes, 1 of which they have no competition from a LCC.

Is Alicante on sale for the first part of next summer? Have Vueling routes to Malaga and Palma from other airports gone on sale for the first part of next summer? I have a vague notion that CWL routes have sometimes been slow in reaching the booking engine/timetable in some previous summers.

 

[Jerry]

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Is Alicante on sale for the first part of next summer? Have Vueling routes to Malaga and Palma from other airports gone on sale for the first part of next summer? I have a vague notion that CWL routes have sometimes been slow in reaching the booking engine/timetable in some previous summers.

Alicante is onsale yes. I've had a quick look at what they have onsale at malaga and it appears several destinations including Spanish destinations aren't onsale yet so Cardiff isn't alone. Personally I'd have thought if they were going to withdraw from Cardiff they'd drodrop everything which includes Alicante.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

I remember that not so long ago CWL-ALC was one of Vuelings best performing routes from Alicante. If they are to be a true LCC they can't just run away as soon as Ryanair step in on a route, especially given the time and effort gone in to building the routes and their reputation at CWL.
BCN can't be compared as they are going through a major restructure at BCN and it was never performing anywhere as good as ALC and AGP. I really don't see them pulling off ALC or AGP whether Ryanair are there or not. The presence of Ryanair will obviously bring fares down, but one would hope that VY have built up a decent client base on the routes over the years and that will go in their favour.
CWL can support daily flights to both ALC and AGP, regardless of which operators are on the route. If FR start to increase frequencies resulting in more than single daily flights, that's where it will start to get interesting.
PMI still has potential but needs fine tuning to better timings like AGP and ALC have been given.
I don't think there's anything to worry about here.

 

[Jerry]

There is one thing that I've only just thought of but the bases at Malaga and Mallorca could be under review by IAG as to whether they want to have LEVEL take them over? That could explain the late going onsale.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Are Level taking over VYs Spanish bases?
Unless IAG are planning on shutting VY down I would've thought that would be VYs bread and butter and that Level would take on the European bases outside of Spain. Wasnt the AMS base taken over mainly due to crew/union issues?

 

[Jerry]

Are Level taking over VYs Spanish bases?
Unless IAG are planning on shutting VY down I would've thought that would be VYs bread and butter and that Level would take on the European bases outside of Spain. Wasnt the AMS base taken over mainly due to crew/union issues?

I honestly don't know but they do seem to be taking over their non Spanish bases one by one and I wouldn't be surprised if IAG looked at them taking over or partly taking over bases like Malaga and Mallorca so Vueling could just focus on Barcelona and internal Spanish routes leaving level to the other's.

 

[Jerry]

According to the CAA Vueling is the least punctual airline averaging 31 minutes late last year.

Revealed: The least punctual airline flying from the UK

A spokesman for the airline blamed industrial action in France but another commentator blames the UK's "antiquated airspace".

news.sky.com

 

[Jerry]

Vueling have released PMI and AGP onsale but at reduced frequency for both routes.

 

[Jerry]

Vueling summer 2020 so far looks like this.
Alicante 6 weekly
Malaga 4 weekly 3 in April
Mallorca 3 weekly 2 in April

Malaga will operate on Tuesday, Wednesday (not in April), Thursday and Saturday.
Mallorca will operate on Monday, Wednesday (not in April) and Thursday.

13 weekly flights except for April when its 11 weekly.
Loss of 2 weekly flights and 3 in April.

 

[Sean123]

Thanks for that Jerry, was waiting for pmi for next May

 

[Nuffsaid]

Vueling have been going through some restructuring lately. It could simply be aircraft availability. Malaga is always popular and this could be a first phase of the timetable.

 

[Jerry]

Usually the rest of the summer goes onsale around September so if they are to increase flights which I believe that they have done before it'll probably be then but I would be surprised if they did.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Vueling have been going through some restructuring lately. It could simply be aircraft availability. Malaga is always popular and this could be a first phase of the timetable.

It's a point to consider and Jerry has already responded. BTW, it's good to see you posting, Nuffsaid. We look forward to more contributions from you.