Ryanair

[paully]

Smoke and Mirrors with O`Leary..Always has been..The seats in question, at silly money, will be on routes and at times that they normally can`t fill. Just hoping then to sell you some ancillary service, sandwich, car hire etc from which they make their profits. While its a gamble he`s proved in the past that it actually works.

 

[lbaspotter]

Bad day at the office for some Spanish based Ryanair crews as the base cuts for Girona, Arrecife, Tenerife and Las Palmas have all been confirmed today.
A total of 432 flight & Cabin crew members will lose there jobs.

Ryanair confirms 432 redundancies in Spain

IRISH low-cost airline Ryanair has confirmed that it will lay off 432 people in Spain. This is as a result of the closure of its Tenerife Sur, Gran Canaria, Girona and Lanzarote bases. To start with…

www.euroweeklynews.com

 

[White Heather]

Cutting back at many airports, not just LBA. In the long term it will be interesting to see if these new routes at Southend ultimately result in a slight reduction in flying out of Stansted. The two are not far apart at all, but there again the London area seems to have no bounds in terms of how many passengers it can generate.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Cutting back at LBA......but


Ryanair is set to launch six new routes from Southend Airport this summer.
The new routes mean the budget airline now will operate a total of 16 services from the airport.
The new routes, which will launched in April 2020, will serve:

• Bergerac;
• Bucharest;
• Girona;
• Marseille;
• Venice Treviso; and
• Vilnius, in Lithuania.

Ryanair’s Alejandra Ruiz said: “Since the start of our operations in London Southend in April, we have carried more than 650,000 customers, and based on this success to date we are delighted to extend our services at Southend with six new routes for summer 2020.

Overall at the AGM Ryanir stated it is to cut back by 10% on routes and a similar percentage on bases.
Its budget is to see a reduction in passenger numbers this year of 5 million, based on a similar growth to last year, more flying, but not a similar growth. Obviously new bases and routes will be opened to refresh the offer.
The major problem still remains, too many airlines, too many routes resulting in seats being sold under cost, TC may have fallen, but german seat prices are still falling
Obviously there is a window for an airport to attract Ryanair, however, LBA must bare its brunt of Ryanairs pain, nothing to do with the management of LBA, unless they get rid of Jet2, then MOL may show his pleasure and then walk away when some other airport offers better inducements.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Cutting back at many airports, not just LBA. In the long term it will be interesting to see if these new routes at Southend ultimately result in a slight reduction in flying out of Stansted. The two are not far apart at all, but there again the London area seems to have no bounds in terms of how many passengers it can generate.

you keep saying Ryanair are cutting back at many airports but every time i go onto aviation forums and the Ryanair site all I see are increases!

 

[White Heather]

you keep saying Ryanair are cutting back at many airports but every time i go onto aviation forums and the Ryanair site all I see are increases!

OK, well check out the likes of Belfast International and Prestwick (and Glasgow, where they left not long ago to concentrate on Prestwick) - not forgetting all four of the Canary Island bases and Faro. Ryanair fly all over Europe - have you checked all their airports outside the UK as well?

 

[Statto]

Cutting back at LBA......but


Ryanair is set to launch six new routes from Southend Airport this summer.
The new routes mean the budget airline now will operate a total of 16 services from the airport.
The new routes, which will launched in April 2020, will serve:

• Bergerac;
• Bucharest;
• Girona;
• Marseille;
• Venice Treviso; and
• Vilnius, in Lithuania.

Ryanair’s Alejandra Ruiz said: “Since the start of our operations in London Southend in April, we have carried more than 650,000 customers, and based on this success to date we are delighted to extend our services at Southend with six new routes for summer 2020.

But according to Sean M on twitter.....

What Ryanair don't state is the loss of 3 London Southend routes - Cluj, Copenhagen and Kosice (all available at Stansted) nor the reduced number of flights to Dublin (down from 14 in S19 to 10x weekly in S20)

Credit @SeanM1997

 

[Severn]

The following list shows compares Ryanair's UK bases for Summer 19 vs Summer 20 (not including STN): *according to the current schedule.
STN... Lots of based aircraft
MAN - 2019 = 12 / 2020 = 12 / Change: None
EDI - 2019 = 8 / 2020 = 8 / Change: None
EMA - 2019 = 9 / 2020 = 8 / Change: - 1
LTN - 2019 = 6 / 2020 = 6 / Change: None
BHX - 2019 = 4 / 2020 = 4 / Change: None
BRS - 2019 = 4 / 2020 = 4 / Change: None
LPL - 2019 = 4 / 2020 = 4 / Change: None
PIK - 2019 = 3 / 2020 = 3 / Change: None
SEN - 2019 = 3 / 2020 = 3 / Change: None
LBA - 2019 = 3 / 2020 = 2 / Change: - 1
BOH - 2019 = 1 / 2020 = 1 / Change: None
BFS - 2019 = 1 / 2020 = 0 / Change: - 1 (Base Closed)
GLA - 2019 = 0 / 2020 = 0 / Change: None

 

[lbaspotter]

I bet if the Clock work Orange lot appeared with a base at LBA, Ryanair would react stright away by spitting there dummy out.

 

[paully]

I bet if the Clock work Orange lot appeared with a base at LBA, Ryanair would react stright away by spitting there dummy out.

Its what they normally do

 

[rmac]

Why would they do that? They compete with EasyJet, Jet2 etc very well at various airports. They have been at LBA for many years and I would expect them to have a base there for years to come. Ryanair often have routes to places like Bratislava, Riga etc that EasyJet don't and there is plenty of potential for EasyJet to places like Berlin, Copenhagen, Madrid as well as Palma, Malaga, etc etc.

 

[White Heather]

LBA themselves would not want Easyjet to come here, and operate routes which were already Ryanair routes and which didn't have the capacity for healthy competition, leading to Ryanair pulling the route (or worse). They need someone to come in and fill the void left 2 years back by Monarch but preferably with some new routes that are un-served, not just more operators to the same places, although I accept (and LBA do too) that some routes are still very much under-served. There are so many routes with potential from here if anyone wants to operate them. It is just a matter of having the faith and the money to invest in LBA, which is why it is so vital that first, in order to encourage that, AMP Capital do likewise. They cannot expect airlines to invest in the airport until they have done so themselves.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

I would hope LBA management would protect existing airlines and only approve a newcomer to LBA to compete on a current route, if demand can be proved.(difficult I know)
Not sure LBA owners investment would be a consideration for airlines such as Ryanair, its more whats in it for them, many european airports Ryanair use, make LBA look like the Ritz
Having used a good dozen airports in the last year, LBA rates highly for me better then Rome, Amsterdam, Geneva, Frankfurt, Manchester, Gatwick, stansted, Bergen
I would put Ibiza, Budapest, above LBA and Dublin, malaga around a similar offer.
I accept its a personal decision, but I think those who demean LBA may have a limited European knowledge.
In the 70's I thought the sun shone on BA, until I had the joy of using Singapore and Cathy to the Far east and found what an unattractive offer BA made.

 

[Finger66]

Was Cathy any good when you used her? Sorry, couldn't resist! Much I love BA, I totally agree the Far East airlines do have a better product. Often more cost effective too

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I bet if the Clock work Orange lot appeared with a base at LBA, Ryanair would react stright away by spitting there dummy out.

In recent years at BRS Ryanair have tended to come on to new easyJet routes themselves to compete: recent ones are Seville, Milan MXP, Grenoble, Sofia, Turin and Vienna (this one through Lauda). They also switched from Treviso to Venice MP to compete with easyjet and also compete to Krakow. In addition there are many sun routes that both airlines operate in competition.

 

[Len Fish]

It is not clear whether LBA could protect existing airlines from competition from newcomers given the competition powers of the CAA.

 

[White Heather]

Surprised to see 4 Ryanair 737 800s lined up on the apron at LBA this morning. Have they gone down to a 2 aircraft base yet? Even if they have, I wouldn't have expected to see 4 of them on the ground at 11am?

 

[Bigman]

Note on one of the websites this morning about Ryanair owning up to 'pickle fork; cracks. The aircraft pictured is EI-DAN...and guess where that is currently based????

 

[Len Fish]

It’s estimated that each repair will cost around £214000 per aircraft. Wonder who pays, given that the part involved has failed long before it’s designed life expectancy? Can see some interesting discussions between Boeing and the aircraft owners!

 

[White Heather]

Note on one of the websites this morning about Ryanair owning up to 'pickle fork; cracks. The aircraft pictured is EI-DAN...and guess where that is currently based????

Although that isn't one of the 3 airframes affected. They are named in the article I read, with 2 being at a repair centre in California right now and the other in storage at STN.